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mcswan

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#1 10 years ago

Another Jedi class poll




JCarter426

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#2 10 years ago

Guardian. Obi-wan seems to focus more on saber combat.




Tych

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#3 10 years ago

No, if he focused on lightsaber combat he would have been an even match for Count Dooku. I'd say he is more of a sentinel... He thinks things through and doesn't charge into dangerous situations, and is about evenly balanced between his swordsman and force skills.




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#4 10 years ago

sentinel like what Tych said




A'ja'la

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#5 10 years ago
Tych;4359436No, if he focused on lightsaber combat he would have been an even match for Count Dooku. I'd say he is more of a sentinel... He thinks things through and doesn't charge into dangerous situations, and is about evenly balanced between his swordsman and force skills.

He also got his backside handed to him when he was fighting Darth Maul, I mean Obi-Wan only won that fight because Maul was an idiot and was toying with Obi-Wan rather than just killing him. So I say Sentinal, too. :)




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#6 10 years ago
Tych;4359436No, if he focused on lightsaber combat he would have been an even match for Count Dooku. I'd say he is more of a sentinel... He thinks things through and doesn't charge into dangerous situations, and is about evenly balanced between his swordsman and force skills.

:lol: You obviously haven't seen episode 1. Remember Darth Maul?

I think that he's more of a weapon master, but the closest thing to that is guardian, so.




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#7 10 years ago
JCarter426;4359172Guardian. Obi-wan seems to focus more on saber combat.[/quote]
Tych;4359436No, if he focused on lightsaber combat he would have been an even match for Count Dooku. I'd say he is more of a sentinel... He thinks things through and doesn't charge into dangerous situations, and is about evenly balanced between his swordsman and force skills.[/quote] [quote=A'ja'la;4359562]He also got his backside handed to him when he was fighting Darth Maul, I mean Obi-Wan only won that fight because Maul was an idiot and was toying with Obi-Wan rather than just killing him. So I say Sentinal, too. :)
[quote=Revan91;4359632]:lol: You obviously haven't seen episode 1. Remember Darth Maul? I think that he's more of a weapon master, but the closest thing to that is guardian, so.

Survey Says..... Ding Ding Ding! Sorry folks, but the right answer is that Obi-Wan Kenobi was a Jedi Guardian. Beer for JCarter....:beer: Obi-Wan did in fact place more emphasis on lightsaber combat than developing his Force Powers, like say Yoda, who was a Consular. Obi-Wan studied under Qui-Gon, a Consular, yes, but Obi-Wan was more in tune with the martial abilities of the Jedi, choosing instead the blue blade of a guardian than the green one of a consular or the yellow one of a sentinel. Obi-Wan got whooped by Maul? Yes and no. While Obi-Wan was still only a padawan, prepared to take the Trials, Maul was already a full blown Sith Maurader. Only by using the anger in him was Obi-Wan able to defeat Maul, a choice that Obi-Wan disdained for it brought him within reach of the dark side. Obi-Wan was a master of the Ataru form of lightsaber combat, a form also favored by Yoda for it's more acrobatic attack patterns. Count Dooku was a Jedi Master for over 25 years before he left the Jedi Order giving him ample time to master his combat skills. Plus his mastery of Form II Makashi was extremely unusual for it's time. Makashi was developed for lightsaber on lightsaber combat, something that was more than very rare during the last 1000 years of the Old Republic, after the Battle of Ruusan. And of course, Dooku was apprenticed to Yoda, who mastered all the seven forms. It would have been easy for Dooku to master such an old and elegant form under Yoda. His mastery of Makashi is what kept the Jedi Council sending him into the field as an operative, despite his declinations to join the Council. Dooku was way more than a match for the combined efforts of Obi-Wan and Anakin. Only a fool would not have noticed that. And if you want to argue about Dooku's age being a factor, look at the fight between Dooku and Yoda. The Force allows one to be faster, stronger and more agile. No, sorry, Dooku would have kicked the crap out of just about everyone. So no crying. So I do hope that this has been helpful to those of you that are confused. Obi-Wan Kenobi was a Jedi Guardian. His apprentice, Anakin Skywalker was also a guardian.




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Darth Dracon;4359807Survey Says..... Ding Ding Ding! Sorry folks, but the right answer is that Obi-Wan Kenobi was a Jedi Guardian. Beer for JCarter....:beer:

Yay! :D

Obi-Wan was a master of the Ataru form of lightsaber combat, a form also favored by Yoda for it's more acrobatic attack patterns.

So was Qui-Gon, I believe. Though I thought I read somewhere that Obi-wan witched to Soresu later on.

Obi-Wan Kenobi was a Jedi Guardian. His apprentice, Anakin Skywalker was also a guardian.

Yeah, that's the other reason I think of Obi-wan as a Guardian; Anakin was most likely one as well, and Obi-wan taught him everything he knew.




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#9 10 years ago

hmm i always thought that he was a guardian because of his focus on lightsaber combat but he's also extremely powerful in the force most likely because of his training as a jedi master




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JCarter426;4359859Yay! :D So was Qui-Gon, I believe. Though I thought I read somewhere that Obi-wan witched to Soresu later on. Yeah, that's the other reason I think of Obi-wan as a Guardian; Anakin was most likely one as well, and Obi-wan taught him everything he knew.[/quote] True, true. It is often the norm for the padawan to follow the path of their master. However it isn't always true. Example: Qui-Gon, a Jedi Consular and Obi-Wan a Jedi Guardian. It depends on what your area of strength in the Force is and what your master decides would be the best path to follow for you, even if it not the same as his. I don't remember reading that he switched to Soresu, but you might be right. That would mean that Obi-Wan had mastered 2 lightsaber forms for sure, if he was confident enough to switch from one to the other. Yoda and Mace Windu were very much like that. [quote=dxm16;4360253]hmm i always thought that he was a guardian because of his focus on lightsaber combat but he's also extremely powerful in the force most likely because of his training as a jedi master

Yes and no. Sentinel are balanced between combat and Force powers. Guardians usually tend to focus more on combat, so many are less likely to be able to defend well enough against Force attacks in combat. Consulars are the exact opposite: they study the Force and place much less emphasis on lightsaber combat. They usually wind up as mediocre lightsaber fighters, Sentinels are mid-range to good and Guardians are the best in lightsaber combat. However, as with the case of Obi-Wan, he studied to be a Guardian while being apprenticed to a Consular so one could make the arguement that while Obi-Wan learned to be a proficient swordsman, he learned how to use the Force or augment a Force attack/defence during saber combat thanks to Qui-Gon's instruction. That seems the most likely to me. Of course, that is not to say that Obi-Wan didn't learn a few things from Yoda and Mace Windu, either.... If you are about to argue that Qui-Gon wasn't that proficient in lightsaber combat, I remind you his his master was: Count Dooku, master of Form II, Makashi and former apprentice to Master Yoda, master of ALL 7 lightsaber forms. Of course, in your mind you are wondering why Yoda couldn't defeat Dooku or Sidious, right? Well, with Sidious, the probability of him being as technically proficient in the lightsaber forms is great. Remember, the dark side makes learning that much easier, much quicker. As for Dooku, he KNEW he could only fend off Yoda for a while before his old master finally unleashed an Ataru case of whoop ass on him, so he caused that equipment to come crashing down on Kenobi and Skywalker to distract Yoda long enough to make his escape. Kenobi is a fine swordsman, but no match for Count Dooku. Anakin won by giving into his hate and anger, which was much stonger than Dooku's by the time they faced each other again in EP III ROTS. Plus, Anakin had probably mastered his chosen form, becoming very formidable.




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