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Fyurii

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#11 10 years ago

I too am having trouble believing that Lucas allowed another Sith Lord to be rated as more powerful than Sidious.

Given his zealous stranglehold on more than just "Big Three" (which is way beyond three, that it's more like Big Dozen), combined with previous denials for other characters to be more powerful, or for two alien races to have been the original Sith, it's just somewhat..... hard to believe without some sort of indisputable source for the canonicity of Caedus' level of power.

I've seen that same quote of Lucas' that Revan_1990 used plastered about so many times, I'm starting to get sick of it. Not because of the frequency it's used, but because he's actually said many different (and often contradictory to previous) statements about the EU and the Films.

He's more aware of it than what many people assume, but not as aware as others also assume. That's what The Holocron is for. Hell, he's even incorporated EU creations into the Prequel Trilogy e.g. Quinlan Vos, Aayla Secura, but only those that don't interfere with his creations and ideas.

Possibly the most important and prominant EU creation, was Coruscant itself. Its first "appearance", was the book Heir to The Empire. Lo and behold, it turned out pretty much like it was described in the books.

Killing Chewbacca was a tough one to get done, but he allowed it since the Wookiee was more a supporting character with a less prominant role in the films. Sidious wasn't even Sidious until the mid 90's, when work began on TPM. Until then, he'd been just Emperor Palpatine. When Timothy Zhan wrote Heir to The Empire, he was only just allowed to connect Jorus C'boath to Senator Palpatine in a more tenuous/ambiguous way than he originally planned. So far, there hasn't been much about even Plagueis, let alone more information about Palpatine's early/ealier years. Mostly because Lucas doesn't seem to want others to write about his creations as much as he used to let them.




Jedijax

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#12 10 years ago

Well, Caedus being the most powerful Sith Lord was mentioned sometime around the release of Fury, yet again, in interviews and statements involving Sue Rostoni and the Legacy of the Force authors, but as far as I know, it was made "official" just recently, with the release of Fate of the Jedi: Outcast, Millenium Falcon and Blood Oath, the last one even explicitly stating such in its back-cover description. To be quite honest, I don't believe Georgie is very informed about Expanded Universe content, as it has been mentioned and stated once and again such is the case. The Aayla Secura-like introductions in the movies seem to me more like outside contributions; by this I mean someone involved in EU continuity and development suggests and requests something to be included in the movies, Lucas checks that particular character/planet/technology/event, and decides wether to incorporate it or not. And as far as Coruscant goes, I thought it first appeared in Shadows of the Empire, but you are right, Timothy's work came many years before that!! Don't know what came over me!! Hahahaha!! :rofl:




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#13 10 years ago

If Jacen turned out to be the most powerful Sith then Jaina is the most powerful Jedi for Defeating him anyone think so? And Luke too cause he helped make a vision of himself in place of Jaina I bet Jacen wouldn't have fought Jaina if he knew it was her.




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#14 10 years ago

Uh, no, Jaina is not the most powerful Jedi. The circumstances in which she executed (because that's what it was, no mistake about it) her twin were very well detailed to leave a doubt. The thing is Jacen didn't fight his sibling at all. If you read Legacy of the Force, at least from Fury, you know Caedus is severely injured after his defeat in the Anakin Solo, and his daughter is in immediate danger. Actually, it is Luke who is the most powerful Jedi ever, as he is the one who brings Solo to his knees, and only spares him so as to not risk Ben or himself embracing the Dark Side of The Force. By the time the so-called "Sword of the Jedi" faces him, Jacen is not even interested in a duel, he is desperately trying to stop the murder of his and Tenel Ka's child. It is made very clear in Invincible that Caedus is not fighting his sister, he is merely defending from her. No, the one "official" most powerful Jedi ever, as he defeated the "official" most powerful Sith Lord ever in a one-on-one fight, is Luke Skywalker. Such is implied since the very beggining of the series, as it all starts with Solo having a vision of Luke dying, and the tremendous consequences such an event would bring, and in several "replays" and reflections on the matter, Caedus realizes the only one who may kill his uncle is himself, and the only one who can kill the head of GAG is Skywalker; he actually sees them being each other's ultimate "Shatterpoint."




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