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ImmortalFlame

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#521 12 years ago
Revan91;4740863Release the mod, fix the bugs later.

:rofl: no. Heard of the Leaked Beta incident? I was on their forums when it happened, and when it happened, less then 24 hours later, MANY people came to Team Gizka, complaining that they couldn't get past this point with this mod. What your talking about is the same thing, but on a larger scale. With the Closed Beta, the team can be sure that the testers are using only TSLRP and no other mods, so that there are as little bugs as possible.

I've kept track of this project for as long, if not from the beginning. And as a modder I can sympathize the Closed Beta idea. I know the problems that can come from an Open Beta... like people using mods with TSLRP like the USM, repeating the same bugs stated 5 minutes ago, and, the one no one likes to get; 'u gaiz sux0rz cuz ur m0d d1dn't d0 dis: [insert random idea teh n00b had here]"




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#522 12 years ago

ok so i just signed up wit file front but i've been following this team gizka restoration for a LONG time and i'm wonderin if they are still workin on it since the last update i've seen on there page is from 2007....plus on the home page the little link that supposed to take u to sound sets of some cut content now goes to some other website...with this address tarian tuber real estate apartment at tubertarian.com I mean maybe I'm outa the loop on somethin here and kinda paranoid but I'm just callin it how I see it. If anybody has insight please enlighten me.




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#523 12 years ago
texasmarine;4744644ok so i just signed up wit file front but i've been following this team gizka restoration for a LONG time and i'm wonderin if they are still workin on it since the last update i've seen on there page is from 2007....plus on the home page the little link that supposed to take u to sound sets of some cut content now goes to some other website...with this address tarian tuber real estate apartment at tubertarian.com I mean maybe I'm outa the loop on somethin here and kinda paranoid but I'm just callin it how I see it. If anybody has insight please enlighten me.

Yes, from what we know, they're still working on it. As their motto is 'it's done when it's done', I doubt they'll update any time soon, until they're sure there won't be a million people asking 'When is it done? What time's left?' The same happened the SithSpecter's thread. :(


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#524 12 years ago

i think it will be done many months after Star Wars The Old Republic




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#525 12 years ago

The problem with the way they are doing this is they arent focusing on the major bugs as their top priority, they seem to be just doing things as they come along, and take like 2 weeks to correct the misuse of a comma or some shit. I know they have lives and all, but seriously, its a text error! If you know how to fix it, i wouldnt imagine it would take more than 5 minutes -_-(correct me if im wrong) Because the fact is, god knows how many errors there are in the text, and quite frankly who gives a %#*^? 99.99999% of people arent going to care, or even notice, if it's to instead of too, or butt instead of but. Look at the recently reported bugs, about half of them are text "errors" another 25% of them are complaints about not getting DS points or something or problems with refugee woes, or the complaint about being able to recover the mines in the vision. Do these affect the overall enjoyment of the mod? Are these issues even related to the TSLRP? NO , they were already IN THE GAME and nobody cared about them, yet the beta testers feel they are of such importance that they report them and waste team gizka's time with issues that have already been reported 25 times. The only real issue on there is the fact that GO-TO doesnt recognize the sale of fuel, they should be working on that, not worrying about saquesh's personal guards snorting.(besides, weequay are pretty stupid, i wouldnt put snorting past them)




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#526 12 years ago

Team Gizka should listen to their fans! I'm with you GrdAdmSenza!




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#527 12 years ago

Ok, there are many issues that can pop up at any given time, and only so many people able to correct them. Now, Team Gizka seems to be correcting what you all look at as trivial, minor, problems, are in fact problems that do take time to find, and is reproduceable. This sin't just the minor problems, but all of them. And all of Team Gizka have lives outside of KOTOR, and may not be able to reproduce an error for a couple of days to a week, then suggest a solution to the problem, to kick it to the programmers, and get it fixed. It all takes time. They want to put out a good product, not a mediocre one, like TSL was, when it was put out.




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#528 12 years ago

texasmarine;4744644ok so i just signed up wit file front but i've been following this team gizka restoration for a LONG time and i'm wonderin if they are still workin on it since the last update i've seen on there page is from 2007....plus on the home page the little link that supposed to take u to sound sets of some cut content now goes to some other website...with this address tarian tuber real estate apartment at tubertarian.com I mean maybe I'm outa the loop on somethin here and kinda paranoid but I'm just callin it how I see it. If anybody has insight please enlighten me.[/quote] They finished adding the content ages ago, sometime after the last update, so don't expect any more updates. The newest 'update' is in the bug page, where it says this build and the next build are the 'release candidates.' The beta testers are finding bugs, and the remaining team members are squashing them at their leisure. And the sounds site has no 'relation', if you will, to the project. The owner of the site shut it down, the owner couldn't pay for it, etc, etc. Whatever way you look at it, it is down.

[quote=GrdAdmSenza;4748849]:dread2:

The point of the TSLRP is to return as much of the content they can to the game, and make the game make more sense then it did. And for what they couldn't do, there is M4-78 and TSLCR. People don't report the same bug 25 times, they report a bug once, possibly twice by mistake, but thats it. Your thinking of what would happen if they used an Open Beta, and you'd be the 26th person to report the bug that "ZOMG TEH SBR CASE ON TELOS DOESN"T SPAWN FIX IT NAO" while you use USM with TSLRP. As for the issues... this mod messes with most files in the game. An issue that doesn't appear in the vanilla tsl (for the not smart people out there it means un-modded) and it does in TSLRP, theres a reason for that. You may not care if the mod is riddled with bugs (HK Factory not working correctly, block issues, a lot of things nor running correctly in the game), but others do.

Let me give you all a lesson on how the bug process works. (I'm just going off my general knowledge)

1) Beta Tester Looks if the bug he/she encountered has already been addressed and fixed. If not, then he/she reports it. 2) The Team Member assigned to the bug tests that its reproduceable in his version, and if it is, he tries to fix it. 3) Before the bug is assigned as 'fixed', the beta tester and the team member checks that the bug was squashed.

It may sound fast, but if you add in the factor called Real Life, then it tends to slooooooooowwwww doooooooowwwwwwwnnnn.




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#529 12 years ago

I'll wait forever if I have too!




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#530 12 years ago

why dont you realease it GIZKA at first i was fine with you doing at your own pace, but that was 4 years ago i mean come on you should atleast try and cut some corners i dunno take a synrozised sicky from work and then work on it, come on ppl 4 FREAKEN YEARS!!!!!!!