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Lordjedi

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#141 12 years ago

As Inyri said, the majority of them got betrayed. Most of them didn't see it coming. Did Sidious? No. Did Plaguis? No, Killed in his sleep.




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#142 12 years ago

There were some Sith that weren't betrayed. Marka Ragnos, for instance. I'm not sure what that says about the Sith that were betrayed, though. Just figured I should point it out.




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#143 12 years ago
Inyri Forge;4253917Then you're saying Sidious is a failed Sith Lord too? And all the other Sith Lords that have been successfully betrayed (which is the vast majority)? I don't think so. As Yuthura Ban says herself, it's simply the way of the Sith; the stronger prevail. I don't think it's a matter of being failed, particularly.

Sidious was prepared though. Maul was defeated by Obi-Wan, so he didn't have to worry about him. He betrayed Dooku and at the same time continued working on Anakin, turning him closer and closer to the Dark Side. Ultimately, he made the best preparations of all..... hundreds of clones of himself, waiting for when he needed them. However, the only thing he couldn't have forseen was a conspiracy to betray and essentially, "assassinate" him. He was prepared for the betrayal of his Apprentices, but not that of his "loyal" surgeon and worst of all, one of the Imperial Guard! Yes Lordjedi, Plagueis did fail. You yourself said it, he was killed in his sleep! That's a monumental failure on his part, and another "notch" on Sidious' belt.




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#144 12 years ago
Fyurii;4254436Sidious was prepared though.

In whose universe? :lol:

I distinctly recall Sidious screaming and being terrified as Vader hurled him down that shaft. He was not expecting Vader to turn on him in the least; he was expecting Luke to try and kill him. Sure he was prepared: for the wrong thing.




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#145 12 years ago

Just another possibly irrelevant thing I should point out: Sidious didn't die just then. He came back. Of course, he was betrayed that time too, again by his second in command. Will he never learn?




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#146 12 years ago

Um, no. He died. He had a clone. That's a little different. That just makes him really stupid.




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#147 12 years ago

Well, his body died, but supposedly his consciousness lived and made it to the clone body. But because of his "constant use of the dark side" each clone body had a short lifespan, so as a result his life rested in the hands of his doctor, who was paid by the Imperial Council to sabotage the final clone. Hey, don't blame me; I didn't think up that garbage. :p




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#148 12 years ago
JCarter426;4254669Well, his body died, but supposedly his consciousness lived and made it to the clone body. But because of his "constant use of the dark side" each clone body had a short lifespan, so as a result his life rested in the hands of his doctor, who was paid by the Imperial Council to sabotage the final clone. Hey, don't blame me; I didn't think up that garbage. :p

He even tried to get Anakin Solo as a baby, so that he could inhabit his body instead of using the clones. Anyone who doesn't believe, go read the Dark Empire series, it's all there!




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#149 12 years ago
JCarter426;4254669Well, his body died, but supposedly his consciousness lived and made it to the clone body. But because of his "constant use of the dark side" each clone body had a short lifespan, so as a result his life rested in the hands of his doctor, who was paid by the Imperial Council to sabotage the final clone. Hey, don't blame me; I didn't think up that garbage. :p

:rofl: They use flash training on the clones. His consciousness didn't "live on" because he was special; it lived on because the doctors were special. =p




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#150 12 years ago
FyuriiAnyone who doesn't believe, go read the Dark Empire series, it's all there!

Most of the NJO books just fail at life, though. :uhm:


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