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#1 11 years ago

I've never played the Jedi Master or Sith Lord, and I know there are 4 force forms. I had Force Channel and Force Affinity (affinity thanks to Coruscnat mod), but I don't know the other two. So can someone tell me what are the other 2 force forms, and what do they do?




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#2 11 years ago

Well I cant really remember the name of them, some does saber damage bonus, some does enemy's damage to lower.... it means you can fight with your enemy through 13 mins if he dont recognize the form and use flurry Some does force power damage bonus... really generic things..




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#3 11 years ago

i remember there is one form that lets you make an extra attack without using flurry, so if you use flurry you have a total of 4 attacks instead of the normal 2




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#4 11 years ago

There's four force forms. Force Affinity, Force Potency, Force Channel, and Force Mastery. Then I can't remember all of the Combat forms. Yeah, tried looking through KSE, couldn't find anything, and If you ever looked in the Booleans and Numerics sections, you'll find some crazy stuff. Like this for example... 000_Psychotic:, or... 000_Women_Trouble, or... 000_Xbox_Live. Someone needs to figure out what all this means. Just found something, here are all of the force forms. Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords Game Guide - Features at GameSpot




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#5 10 years ago

I think I remember all the forms (Force and Weapons) Force: Force Affinity, Mastery, Potency, and Channel. Of the top of my head, I know theres Juyo, Shien, Ataru, Shii-Cho, and Makashi.




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#6 10 years ago

:lol: I was just reading this topic a couple of hours ago for an unrelated reason, before BIOShazard posted. I swear, I was! (Working on a mod... ;))

Anyway, yes, you're right; it's Affinity, Control, Mastery, and Potency. The saber forms you're missing are Niman and Soresu. ;) (No, I'm not a complete Star Wars nerd; I just looked it up for the mod! :p)

As for what the forms do, I don't know the specifics, but according to the descriptions...

Force Affinity: + Force Regeneration during Combat

Force Control: + Force Regeneration, + Force Damage

Force Mastery: + Force Duration, + Cost

Force Potency: + Force Damage, + Force Cost




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#7 10 years ago

The 7 lightsaber forms are: Form I: Shii-Cho, "Way of the Sarlacc" Form II: Makashi, "Way of the Ysalamir" Form III: Soresu: "Way of the Mynock" Form IV: Ataru, "Way of the Hawk-Bat" Form V: Shien/Djem So, "Way of the Krayt Dragon" (Djem So is more of the aggressive dark side form) Form VI: Shien: "Way of the Rancor" Form VII: Juyo/Vaapad, "Way of the Vornskr" or "Ferocity Form" (Vaapad was developed by Mace Windu. It's development resulted in his promotion to Jedi Master.)




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#8 10 years ago

Someone's been getting their Jedi geek-freak on. :p

According to the newest sources, due to a screw-up by Mr Karpyshyn (he's still slapping himself over it), "Vapaad" was another name for "Juyo" even before Mace. When Mace created his new style, he took on the less popular name.

Oh, and if anyone wants descriptions...

Shii-Cho: Basic combat. Focuses more on attack than defense, but has no noticeable weaknesses. No great strengths, either.

Makashi: A graceful form, designed for use against other Jedi. It focuses on speed and precision rather than strength. The Jedi enters an almost meditative state, allowing them to better resist Force attacks. However, it was developed before the invention of the blaster, and so it leaves the Jedi open to such attacks. More likely than not a Consular form, but I'm sure that everyone uses it.

Soresu: Completely defensive, developed to counter blasters, but also useful against another Jedi. It uses quick, discreet movements, allowing the Jedi to expend very little energy while their enemy becomes exhausted. A lot of KotOR geeks claim that Bastila uses this form; I'll take their word for it. :p

Ataru: An aggressive form that utilizes acrobatics. Leaves the Jedi vulnerable, and should only be used against a single opponent when the battle will be quick. Definitely a Guardian form.

Shien: Developed by practitioners of Soresu who found the stance to be too passive. Attempts to combine Soresu and Ataru. It is an aggressive stance that does not sacrifice the Jedi's ability to deflect blaster fire. Not particularly useful against a single opponent. Shien is also the name of a completely different form that is not one of the classic seven. Obsidian mucked up a bit there. Hey, don't blame them; 6/7 is pretty good. :p

Djem So: Also developed by practitioners of Soresu, Djem So is even more aggressive, focusing more on attack than Shien. Its flaw is that it is a sluggish form, lacking mobility. Djem So didn't exist at the time of KotOR.

Ah, Dracon got Form VI wrong. :p It's Niman.

Niman: A moderate form that combines I, III, IV, and V. It has no weaknesses, but its strengths are not extremely impressive. It should only be used when all other options are exhausted. It's sort of like an advanced form of Shii-Cho, except its strengths are more balanced. This is the form that Sentinels would use, I believe. In fact, I think only Sentinels get this in K2; everyone else gets Juyo.

Juyo: The most aggressive of forms, requiring the Jedi to surrender to more darker urges. Deemed to be too close to the dark side by most. It focuses on Both speed and strength, but it leaves the Jedi extremely vulnerable to Force attacks.

Vapaad: Honestly, I have no idea how this form is supposed to be any different than Juyo. It started as a screw-up by one author who tried to make Mace seem more important than he really was (yes, he's badass, but he really wasn't so high and mighty that he developed an entire lightsaber form on his own), and it has been continued by screw-ups and retcons since. I just ignore it completely. After all, plenty of Jedi have personal styles that aren't considered a form on their own. And it didn't exist during the time of KotOR, of course.

And there are some special forms like Jar'Kai and Sokan that I won't talk about. :p If anyone's interested, I have some more info that I plan to use for my mod.

(Again, no, I'm not that geeky. I found this out yesterday while I was on Wookieepedia looking up something else. :p And did I really just use six :ps?)




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#9 10 years ago

tl;dr (To long; didn't read) :sleep::rofl: Anyways, we're drifting from the topic, which has been answered now.




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#10 10 years ago
JCarter426;4354455Someone's been getting their Jedi geek-freak on. :p Ah, Dracon got Form VI wrong. :p It's Niman. Niman: A moderate form that combines I, III, IV, and V. It has no weaknesses, but its strengths are not extremely impressive. It should only be used when all other options are exhausted. It's sort of like an advanced form of Shii-Cho, except its strengths are more balanced. This is the form that Sentinels would use, I believe. In fact, I think only Sentinels get this in K2; everyone else gets Juyo. And there are some special forms like Jar'Kai and Sokan that I won't talk about. :p If anyone's interested, I have some more info that I plan to use for my mod. (Again, no, I'm not that geeky. I found this out yesterday while I was on Wookieepedia looking up something else. :p And did I really just use six :ps?)

I did not forget Niman, Carter. I was typing so fast that I re-typed Shien instead of Niman. I, too, got the info from Wookieepedia. The special forms are not special forms. They are extensions of the 7 lightsaber forms involving advanced combat manuevers. Jar'Kai comes from Niman, I think, the form of balance that incorporates the Jar'Kai fighting method of using two bladed weapons. And I wonder how GL feels about whathisnuts retconning Vaapad out of Windu's hands? I would be pissed. That is the reason why Windu was promoted to Master, one of the youngest to ever attain a position on the High Council, as I recall.... That's why someone needs to reign these sumbitches in. Too much going back and 'fixing' what they think should be already and what is to become. Bastards. Hey for $10,000 I'll go lop thier friggn heads off! (JJ) And no, you really used 7 :p.




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