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Fyurii

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#1 11 years ago

IGN: BioWare MMO project [untitled] Preview

I sense a disturbance in the Force....... Especially for a lot of people who didn't want this!

Heck, it's been one of the worst kept secrets in gaming ever.

Bring on the joy. Bring on the hate. Bring on the indifference.

It's official, and there's nothing we can do about it.




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#2 11 years ago

I'm pretty sure thoses screen shots are concept artwork. but i hope thats how the game acutally looks seriously. MMO kotor Meh....... i've played TSL & K1 like a million times and still play TSL. I will defenitly buy this game when it comes out. Kotor needs some thing new Like teams of a online aspect. it will be nice to play with other people. I just hope we won't have angry gamers calling each other Noob's and dumbass's, the only bad thing about MMO's people insult each other when they get killed & blame each other.




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#3 11 years ago
jedi_master_pikachu;4644114I'm pretty sure thoses screen shots are concept artwork. but i hope thats how the game acutally looks seriously. MMO kotor Meh....... i've played TSL & K1 like a million times and still play TSL. I will defenitly buy this game when it comes out. Kotor needs some thing new Like teams of a online aspect. it will be nice to play with other people. I just hope we won't have angry gamers calling each other Noob's and dumbass's, the only bad thing about MMO's people insult each other when they get killed & blame each other.

amen, if it is indeed the mmo stuff it'll be great ( i hope), and I know from past experiences on a certain star wars mmo (*cough* Star wars galaxies, *Cough*) that there were lots of mean people like that, i just hope they don't do that in this one....




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Heres a record of the Blog that Scooter from 1up had. He was there at the event (Which FYI is still going on)

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1UP LucasArts Reveal Liveblog spacer.gif 2:11 Scooter: Hey everyone, we are still waiting while people are checking in. 2:11 Scooter: Now the doors are opening. 2:12 Scooter: We just been told no photos or videos. USE IMAGination! 2:15 Scooter: THIS CONNECTION IS NOT VERY GOOD. 2:15 Scooter: Reception sucks here. I have no idea how well this will work. 2:18 Scooter: HOLY SMOKES 2:18 Scooter: I finally have internet! 2:18 Scooter: SW themeQ! 2:18 Scooter: Montage of movie clips 2:18 Scooter: DR Ray on screen talking about Star Wars RPG stuff 2:19 Scooter: all KOTOR footage on screen so far. nothing new 2:19 Scooter: So manu talking heads 2:19 Scooter: Now they're talking about KOTOR 2, wihch bioware didnt do, wheeee! 2:20 Scooter: Now they're babbling about the comics 2:20 Scooter: Dr Ray likes the toys, apparently. 2:20 Scooter: Some Lucasarts suit talks abougt "one of the worst kept secrets in the industry" 2:20 Scooter: Lucasrts suit = Gerry Rodriguez 2:21 Scooter: Darrell 2:21 Scooter: I totally got his name wrong. 2:21 Scooter: He finally called it the online KOTOR 2:21 Scooter: He's talkig about how awesome Buoiware is and how they're friends with EA 2:21 Scooter: Star Wars IP plus BioWare storytelling plus EA coolness 2:22 Scooter: Dr Ray and Greg are now here. 2:22 Scooter: Ray is still the Spock of hte gaming industry 2:22 Scooter: Ray is talking about the rumors, such as Howard the Duck the MMO 2:22 Scooter: I totally would play that. 2:22 Scooter: THX-1138 was another joke idea. 2:23 Scooter: MMO in the KOTOR universe, again, verified by Ray. 2:23 Scooter: "A dynamic period full of jedi and sith" 2:23 Scooter: Story-based MMO 2:23 Scooter: I hope it's like age of conan, but better. 2:23 Scooter: Ray wants to make something innovative and storybased 2:24 Scooter: Now he's talking about the KOTOR3 and going into KOTOR6, but decided to go MMO route 2:24 Scooter: listing the four pillars: exploration, customization, combat, and ... 2:24 Scooter: STORY 2:24 Scooter: story gives MEANING 2:25 Scooter: Ray is talking about living the archetypal moments of the SW universe 2:25 Scooter: Greg is talking about state of the game and how it's playable 2:25 Scooter: "We're not going to be playing it today" 2:25 Scooter: Doh 2:25 Scooter: Greg is dropping mad MMO acronyms like RVR PVP etc 2:26 Scooter: But he's talking about a game for KOTOR fans who don't play MMOs 2:26 Scooter: Companion characters are now the topic 2:26 Scooter: COMPANIONS ARE IN. HK-47 PET?!?!?!? 2:26 Scooter: You can't have Han Solo without Chewbacca is the analogy Greg uses. 2:27 Scooter: Companions will have own stories and quests, and you can manipulate them if you're an evil dark side duder 2:27 Scooter: BG2 is COMPLETELY DWARFED by this game (size-wise) 2:27 Scooter: TRAILER TIME 2:28 Scooter: still plying logos 2:28 Scooter: title scroll about imminent war between sith and old republic 2:28 Scooter: olde tyme space shio,and close up of a crystal thingy 2:28 Scooter: there's an assassin droid on screen 2:29 Scooter: some jedi dude is force choking some soldier fool 2:29 Scooter: DOORS ARE OPENING 2:29 Scooter: EPISODE 1 FIGHT MUSIC whike two jedi are dueling 2:29 Scooter: "your saga begins online" 2:29 Scooter: Star Wars: the Old republic = title 2:30 Scooter: Ray is introducing James Ohlen 2:30 Scooter: Lead designer on KOTOR and Baldur's Gate 2:30 Scooter: He's got street cred 2:30 Scooter: He's going to talk about high level design stuff 2:31 Scooter: KOTOR is the coolest game of my career, and SW: Old republic is even MORE exciting! compelling! 2:31 Scooter: "bringing story to the online space" 2:31 Scooter: takes place 3500 years before movies 2:31 Scooter: there's a haggard jedi looking guy plus some random monster art on screen while he talks 2:31 Scooter: 300 years after KOTOR 1 and 2 2:32 Scooter: New Sith Empire is THE MAN 2:32 Scooter: terentatex= ny Star wars nerd know what this is?it was just onscreen 2:32 Scooter: Faction: Galactic Republic or Sith Empire 2:32 Scooter: classes within each faction 2:33 Scooter: he's talking about individual stories of characters like han solo and luke 2:33 Scooter: that's the dynamic he wants; players with own stories who commune with others 2:33 Scooter: players will have to make hard choices 2:33 Scooter: "good, evil, pragmatic, or unpredictable" 2:34 Scooter: reiterates that companion characters are important to both bioware games and SW movies 2:34 Scooter: companions, player choice, unique classes, and players joining together are the key factors of the experience 2:34 Scooter: now here comes the art director 2:35 Scooter: Jeff Dobson, he's worked on other MMOs 2:35 Scooter: quick aside: no in game art has been shown so far 2:35 Scooter: I WILL DESCRIBE THE GAME LOOK WHEN I SEE IT 2:35 Scooter: all art is concept art so far 2:36 Scooter: Dobson is talking about making it Star Wars and recognizable 2:36 Scooter: oh wait, a kinda cool image of a olde tyme trooper just flashed by 2:36 Scooter: looks pretty KOTOR-ish 2:37 Scooter: it's a trooper design i haven't really seen 2:37 Scooter: NOT EVEN ANTHONY knows what the trooper was! 2:37 Scooter: he's a huge SW nerd 2:38 Scooter: he's talking about how they gotta get the character art right, since that's ALL YOU SEE IN AN MMO 2:38 Scooter: why is he talking about broad shoulders and square jaws if you're going to wear space armor? that's a mystery to me. 2:39 Scooter: AHA, he just talks about how the art is designed to run across ALL range of PCs 2:39 Scooter: he's talking about a video that's coming up 2:40 Scooter: pre-production footage marker just flashed by 2:40 Scooter: unoptimized framerate! 2:40 Scooter: just location shots so far 2:40 Scooter: now jedi and droids and combat sequences 2:40 Scooter: no UI, so i cant tell you how it's actually playing out. 2:41 Scooter: anythony said it reminded him of age of conan with a bit of WoW 2:41 Scooter: combat-aninmation wise 2:41 Scooter: choppy jedi swings 2:41 Scooter: back to the title card 2:42 Scooter: ray is talking about general overview stuff 2:42 Scooter: there will be PvP, raids, etc. 2:42 Scooter: still no specifics about classes or anything 2:43 Scooter: it's still early, and now they're done talking 2:43 Scooter: So really, all that's been said and shown is some choppy combat and talks about story stuff without specifics 2:43 Scooter: we'll have breakout sessions, and will try to get more info from them 2:43 Scooter: Q&A time! 2:44 Scooter: is the footage pre-alpha? 2:44 Scooter: YES 2:44 Scooter: howlong have you been working on this game? 2:44 Scooter: NO DETAILS ON SCHEDULE 2:44 Scooter: just that it's a typical bioware game 2:44 Scooter: CONSOLE PLATFORMS? 2:45 Scooter: goeff keighley asked that 2:45 Scooter: "we'r eonly talking about PC... TODAY" 2:45 Scooter: hmmmmmm 2:45 Scooter: someone just asked if there's a subscription 2:45 Scooter: "no details on business model just yet" 2:45 Scooter: someone just asked for release date 2:46 Scooter: "some point IN THE FUTURE" 2:46 Scooter: "why go faction and then side instead of organic 'make a new dude and just go'" begining 2:46 Scooter: there is a design reason for that 2:46 Scooter: "what about the future of SWG?" 2:46 Scooter: "today we're talking about old republic" 2:47 Scooter: open beta? 2:47 Scooter: "AT SOME POINT" 2:47 Scooter: anything about classes or races? 2:47 Scooter: "unique ones on each faction, and what are cool things you've seen in the movies, and we'll make classes out of that" 2:47 Scooter: capture the experience of the movies 2:47 Scooter: if it was in the movie, you should be able to do it in the game 2:48 Scooter: a lot of these questions are being ducked 2:48 Scooter: "that's for a breakout session" 2:48 Scooter: gameplay trailer redux 2:48 Scooter: still starts with location shots 2:49 Scooter: melee seems to be making some contact 2:49 Scooter: there's lots of shooting and force pushing 2:49 Scooter: some lightsaber just crossed with some gaffi stick like thigy 2:49 Scooter: so it looks liek there is contact in the battle animations. though he's hella choppy 2:50 Scooter: now it's breakout sessoin time 2:50 Scooter: should i try to liveblog the breakout session? 2:51 Scooter: okay, NOW WE WALK 2:52 Scooter: i just got a poster and some sweet miniatures 2:53 Scooter: anthony is excited about his miniatures 2:57 Scooter: reception SUX AGAIN 3:00[Standby] gonna try again later 3:06 Scooter: back 3:06 Scooter: "Story driven gameplay" 3:06 Scooter: Star Wars Combat 3:07 Scooter: Meaningful in game choices 3:07 Scooter: Present: James Ohlen, exec producer rich vogel, co studio director gordon walton, and a lucasarts producer i didn't catch the name of 3:07 Scooter: "taking companion experience to the next level" 3:08 Scooter: You can ROMANCE or BETRAY your companions 3:08 Scooter: a profile on the team now 3:08 Scooter: A melding of BioWare talent plus guys who've worked on MMOs before 3:09 Scooter: world building and art and all that is from Bioware, while technology and all that is from MMO dvelopers that bioware has recruited 3:10 Scooter: here comes more Q&A 3:10 Scooter: someone asked about james talking about how you cold try to "force choke everyone you meet" 3:10 Scooter: so he's talking about the factions 3:11 Scooter: if you start in Sith Empire, you can aim to be a sith lord 3:11 Scooter: or try to be good fro mwithin 3:11 Scooter: if you start in galactic empire, you can be a goody, or you can embrace the dark side 3:11 Scooter: "it's not just about jedi knights" 3:12 Scooter: someone asked about if good/evil is binary, or shades of grey 3:12 Scooter: Ohlen is using qui-gon jinn as someone who's a bit in the grey area as an example 3:12 Scooter: Luke is also in the semi morally grey area 3:13 Scooter: a question about story, and how bioware plans to move the story forward 3:13 Scooter: "we're trying to recreate that dream of creating their own story and joining other players in the epic conflict over the galaxy" 3:14 Scooter: each class has a unique story path, unlike other bioware games where the story is basicall ythe same no mater what class you played as 3:14 Scooter: "The Sith story is just awesome" 3:15 Scooter: A Han Solo story will have a different feel than a Luke Skywalker story 3:15 Scooter: Rich Vogel is talking about how the story is much more personal focused 3:16 Scooter: not just you zipping around sucking up the same quests as everyone else 3:16 Scooter: Jen Tsao is asking about appealing to solo players vs social peeps 3:17 Scooter: "you can play on your own, but we're going to encourage you to be social; we're not goin gto force grouping, but we aim to encourage" -Ohlen 3:18 Scooter: the companion character is also an element to making oyu feel part of the story 3:18 Scooter: COMPANIONS ARE NOT PETS 3:18 Scooter: EMPHASIS HIS 3:18 Scooter: someone is asking about PVP 3:19 Scooter: "players will kill players" 3:19 Scooter: "you will be able to slaughter players in multiple ways" 3:19 Scooter: same guy is asking about space stuff 3:19 Scooter: "we're not yet talking about the space experience" 3:20 Scooter: other classes being balanced vs jedi question 3:20 Scooter: "how do we make classes that can go up against jedi"? 3:20 Scooter: ohlen cites jango fett and general grievous as characters who can take down jedi 3:21 Scooter: "we're focused on making aheroic game, so even if you're not a jedi, you're the best representation o fthat class" 3:22 Scooter: ohlen says that he won't confirm that there is a bounty hunter class, but it seems really obvious that there is 3:23 Scooter: someone asks if bioware expects peopl eto make just one class, or to have a ton of alts a la WoW 3:23 Scooter: no content shared at all between classes 3:23 Scooter: playing as jedi vs sith would be like playing two different games 3:23 Scooter: OR SO HE CLAIMS 3:24 Scooter: seanbaby asked what happens when a bounty hunter and a jedi party together 3:24 Scooter: players can join together and help each other in their quests 3:24 Scooter: Han Solo could help Luke against a wompa, as an example 3:26 Scooter: i just asked about death 3:26 Scooter: NO SPECIFICS 3:26 Scooter: someone just asked about D20 3:26 Scooter: NOT D20 3:27 Scooter: Ohlen just dropped a reference to Wookiepedia 3:28 Scooter: in discussing creation of content 3:29 Scooter: talking about the bioware production process being amped up to create content, and getting help from lucasarts on that end 3:29 Scooter: the Lucasrts guy is talking about working with Lucas Licensing and the sound guys to make sure it's all star wars kosher. 3:31 Scooter: they're sitll talking about content creation, and how it'll be a mix of old and new stuff 3:31 Scooter: someone is asking about building your lightsabers 3:31 Scooter: we can't go into too much detail about weapons and equipment 3:31 Scooter: you can do something with your lightsaber ove rthe course of your character's career 3:32 Scooter: someone is now asking about raids 3:32 Scooter: "we're not supposed to talk about raids" 3:32 Scooter: characters from KOTOR can show up 3:32 Scooter: the ones who can survive for 300 years between KOTOR and this game 3:33 Scooter: the HK-47-alike could be HK47, or could be HK50! 3:33 Scooter: any benefit to not having a companion? 3:33 Scooter: ther emight be an achievement for not having one 3:34 Scooter: "we want to reveal over tiem what we're doing" 3:34 Scooter: that's pretty much the theme of today 3:35 Scooter: "when we're confident that the design is complete and is implemented and playable, then we'll talk about it" 3:35 Scooter: "we have lots of plans, but we want to make sure the game has the quality level of a bioware game" 3:35 Scooter: EA moneys = helpful in backing 3:35 Scooter: this is bioware's biggest, and possibly one of EA's biggest, games 3:37 Scooter: EA has been pushing themselves to make new IP and higher quality games across the board, and BioWare is part of that push 3:37 Scooter: "what are your favorite MMOs"? 3:38 Scooter: Warhammer, plus some WoW. One Age of Conan guy. 3:40 Scooter: we want to make combat visceral 3:40 Scooter: very contact oriented 3:41 Scooter: he just started talking about that combat stuff while talking about sotry stuff 3:41 Scooter: sorry if it seemed really sudden 3:41 Scooter: they like the minigames from KOTOR 3:41 Scooter: "MMO has a lot of content" 3:41 Scooter: HERE COMEZ PAZAAK (or whatever that KOTOR blackjack game was called) 3:42 Scooter: now they're switching people for the breakouts 3:44 Scooter: no one has showed up 3:44 Scooter: still waiting 3:47 Scooter: the art guy just walked in 3:47 Scooter: Jeff Dobson, art director 3:47 Scooter: just him for now 3:47 Scooter: he's loading up a SWEET powerpoint 3:48 Scooter: CONCEPTS COME TO LIFE is the title of his current slide 3:49 Scooter: he's showing off some creature and location concepts compared to in-game stuff 3:49 Scooter: talking about making paintings versus photoshopping with phots for overall art design 3:49 Scooter: now his powerpoint is about "capturng that star wars feel in the old republic setting" 3:50 Scooter: the painting on his powerpoint kinda looks like jabba's palace, if that helps 3:50 Scooter: STYLIZED REALISM is his new slide 3:51 Scooter: some character models on screen, tryin gto get that sweet spot of stylized, but realistic as opposed to cartoony 3:51 Scooter: he just namedropped Korriban 3:52 Scooter: now Korriban is all archaelogical dig-site style 3:52 Scooter: on the topic of evolving locations and whatnot 3:52 Scooter: his powerpoint is over, wheee 3:53 Scooter: anthony just asked about whether the art design is tied to the system requirements 3:54 Scooter: a gam ethat doesn't run well isn't a game that we want 3:56 Scooter: someone asked if there's gonna be busy/dense environments like Endor 3:56 Scooter: "we have a lot more to show in the coming months" 3:56 Scooter: again, theme of the day: "we have more to show/talk about later." 3:57 Scooter: someone asked about character customization 3:57 Scooter: "customization is important in the MMO space"

Star Wars KOTOR MMO Announcement Liveblog




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#5 11 years ago

I read all of the aritcal in the link fryuii posted, it will have companians for solo'ing or you can team up with people. it will have different classes with their own story lines cause it's an MMO. the classes will be located on different planets. so you will start of in different places depending on what class you choose. the story will take place 300 years after TSL. It looks like a really good SW games.




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#6 11 years ago

It was also stated that they have a game for Kotor Gammers who do not like MMO's. So that should make people even more happy. Quote : "2:26 Scooter: But he's talking about a game for KOTOR fans who don't play MMOs"




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#7 11 years ago
Razgriz1928;4644216It was also stated that they have a game for Kotor Gammers who do not like MMO's. So that should make people even more happy. Quote : "2:26 Scooter: But he's talking about a game for KOTOR fans who don't play MMOs"

I don't think that was meant to be taken as a seperate game, but that singleplayer/solo players can enjoy it and take part in it just as much as mmo/group players.

Remember, they did say that they dropped KoTORIII in favour of something that would be KoTOR3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc etc.




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#8 11 years ago

Guild Wars is exactly like that, you can play solo with NPC'S or you can team up. It's a popular option for some MMO's. The reason being alot of angry gamers get carryed away and insult each other. so alot of people like to be by them selfs So the option to play the new KOTOR MMO by your self is a way to good lvl up your guy then team up with people from time to time. The Problem with trying to tell a "story" in a MMO is you can't tell a story that easily. so single player is an option for MMO's which is why some of them come with NPC companions. MMO's don't force you to team up it's just an option.




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#9 11 years ago

Well, this is part of what I wrote in the Bioware Forums.

""R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS" - Indeed!"

That's basically what I'm feeling right now but in the concept art I did see a Egyptian-Style Pyramid placed in the Valley Of The Dark Lords on Korriban so I definitely wanna see that! It should have been there in KOTOR if you ask me.

So I guess I have mixed feelings right now I'd say 90% Anger and 10% Completely Unsatisfiable Curiosity. Bottom Line. I'll definitely buy it if its free to play no questions asked. (Which I doubt it will be.) If it isn't then we'll see. I'll read complete reviews watch videos and get the Trial Version first. I just hope and pray that this doesn't turn into another repeat of Galaxies.




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#10 11 years ago

They say that its going to be better then KOTOR 3 would have ever been, and that they have a ton of more options to explore on that they wouldn't have been able to do in KOTOR 3. People will have to warm up to the idea and accept the facts eventually. Besides, if we all knew what happened to Revan and the Exile, by now, most people wouldn't be making as large a fuss about this game as it has been made. Why not milk it for a few more years by making a good, advanced MMO?