who would win Revan and Nihilus VS Vader And Palpatine -1 reply

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Alpha 77

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#1 10 years ago

Oh yeah since all sith lords has an army it will be Revan & Nihilus & Sith Empire vs Vader & Palpatine & Galactic Empire.I say kotor team why becuse first i hate palpatine secound Vader is weak third storm troopers are ugly :rofl:! I like Kotor team becuse First Revan is strong in the force and headstrong he knows many darkside secerts and vader well he isnt headstrong nor he is strong in the force.Secound Nihilus will just feed him self with palpatine to death.Third the Sith Empire has dark jedi and droids and soldiers.And those storm troopers have only ugly masks and small blasters big lughh.So thats my reason.Oh men i forget to make it a poll :bawl:




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#2 10 years ago

okay first off the movie team would win because Palpatine was the strongest sith lord in history coming from Lucas himself and Vader was stronger than he was depicted in the movies Palpatine would have been able to manipulate Revan to give up




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#3 10 years ago

Alpha 77;4738273Oh yeah since all sith lords has an army it will be Revan & Nihilus & Sith Empire vs Vader & Palpatine & Galactic Empire.I say kotor team why becuse first i hate palpatine secound Vader is weak third storm troopers are ugly :rofl:! I like Kotor team becuse First Revan is strong in the force and headstrong he knows many darkside secerts and vader well he isnt headstrong nor he is strong in the force.Secound Nihilus will just feed him self with palpatine to death.Third the Sith Empire has dark jedi and droids and soldiers.And those storm troopers have only ugly masks and small blasters big lughh.So thats my reason.Oh men i forget to make it a poll :bawl:[/quote] oh my God I hate all this Revan bollocks...*sigh*this i why I stick to the death star froum... Kotor team winning?thats almost laughable and i will now take some of your time explaining why. Palaptine is the strongest/best whatever Sith Lord ever PERIOD, it's been said a million times. Nihilus' army is relatively weak and his power is a curse not a power, it kills his own men for fuck sake!he would probably just eat Revan:lol:if only... vader not strong in the force!!!!???what the fuck dude. yes his force powers were limited due to his suit and lost limbs but he was exceptionally powerful, one of the greatest duelists of all time. revans secrets?The star forge is gone and we know nothing of his expeditions in the outer regions so all that means nothing...he probably died or found nothing. His tactics are of no match to Vaders either. palpatine would use a force strom to destory Nihilus in his ship before he even arrives to kill him...Stormtroopers appeared bad in the movies yes...very bad. but think every single surviving clone became a sotrmtrooper, even some arc troopers. They were then reinforced by graduates of the academy which gave stromtroopers years of training.Also the technology would be too advanced, the star destroyers would obliterate any puny cruisers revan and Nihilus had. The death star would just blow their empire away anyway:lol: silly revan boy...

[quote=wwcrusher;4738337]okay first off the movie team would win because Palpatine was the strongest sith lord in history coming from Lucas himself and Vader was stronger than he was depicted in the movies Palpatine would have been able to manipulate Revan to give up

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#4 10 years ago

Just another case of the Characters from the Movies being overpowered and overrated and the and prowess and the power of the Characters from the Ancient EU being disregarded completely. Blame Lucas.




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:rofl:Actually, this is more a case of discussing things in a "my-daddy-is-a-cop-and-would-kick-your-daddy's-touché" style, paying no attention to actual data and facts. Objectivity tells one thing: Nihilus would eat the three of them and an entire planet full of Sith; add whomever you want, Bane, Kraayt, etc. When are you people ever going to understand the only Force-user capable of defeating Nihilus is precisely the one who killed him/her? Outside of a Force-drain limitation, that is, though no one has ever come with a plausible explanation of how such would work... Nowadays, I am even beggining to doubt my very own Yssalammari theory... :uhm:




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#6 10 years ago
Jedijax;4739227:rofl:Actually, this is more a case of discussing things in a "my-daddy-is-a-cop-and-would-kick-your-daddy's-touché" style, paying no attention to actual data and facts. Objectivity tells one thing: Nihilus would eat the three of them and an entire planet full of Sith; add whomever you want, Bane, Kraayt, etc. When are you people ever going to understand the only Force-user capable of defeating Nihilus is precisely the one who killed him/her? Outside of a Force-drain limitation, that is, though no one has ever come with a plausible explanation of how such would work... Nowadays, I am even beggining to doubt my very own Yssalammari theory... :uhm:

*sigh* it is a curse and as far as we know he could die from other means it's just that normal weapons didn't affect his ship but what would happen if a force strom or the death star hit it? Sidious again is the best Sith Lord EVER, I repeat myself again EVER I'm sure he could find some way of killing Nihilus as he has no power just a curse that eats himself and all those around him. It would probably kill revan...not that he would be much help. No, the exile isn't the only one able to defeat him. there are other techniques just the exile had all the 'hole in the force' stuff.




Jedijax

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#7 10 years ago

Oh, yeah? As I said, be my guest and propose a credible theory on how Nihilus/the Jedi Exile may be defeated by anyone save one another. We have been going at these since I came over here, not just in the KOTOR forums, but also into the Legacy of the Force threads of other webpages, and aside from some radical wish-dreaming cpntributions, the only situation we have found to be probable is by using a Force-depraving device or creature as an Yssalammari, and even then we still don't know if their Force-draining "curse" is actually a Force-using trait or rather a phisiological one entirely. By the way, your Death Star theory is along the lines of a surprise attack, and a Death Star is not an individuals power/quality, but a space-station; and of course, a surprise attack may kill Nihilus/the Jedi Exile as much as any other. An earthquake may kill them, a flu, etc. but we are discussing how an encounter between two Force-users would go, assuming they are both aware of their battle. Even a maimed old man was able to "kill" Sidious by "taking him by surprise", Mara Jade died of a poisonus dart, etc. On the other hand, your statement about Palpatine is entirely up to debate, as it is yet another bold comment with no explanation whatsoever, save your lovely words supporting it. Prove me wrong, detail how Palpatine is "best" than Naga Sadow, Caedus, Ruin, Bane, Kaan, Ajunta Pall, Kraayt,... hell, even Revan,... as a Sith Lord. Better yet, tell us how this being "best" is defined! How did you arrive to such great definition of what is the "best Sith Lord", seeing as that shows you have undoubtedly delved deep into objective thinking and Star Wars lore... I am a big Sidious fan, and many of us here have reached the conclusion he is one of the most cunning, powerful and succesful Sith Lords ever. However, "he is ONE", and the precise adjectives used, are the key factor here.




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#8 10 years ago
Jedijax;4739826Oh, yeah? As I said, be my guest and propose a credible theory on how Nihilus/the Jedi Exile may be defeated by anyone save one another. We have been going at these since I came over here, not just in the KOTOR forums, but also into the Legacy of the Force threads of other webpages, and aside from some radical wish-dreaming cpntributions, the only situation we have found to be probable is by using a Force-depraving device or creature as an Yssalammari, and even then we still don't know if their Force-draining "curse" is actually a Force-using trait or rather a phisiological one entirely. By the way, your Death Star theory is along the lines of a surprise attack, and a Death Star is not an individuals power/quality, but a space-station; and of course, a surprise attack may kill Nihilus/the Jedi Exile as much as any other. An earthquake may kill them, a flu, etc. but we are discussing how an encounter between two Force-users would go, assuming they are both aware of their battle. Even a maimed old man was able to "kill" Sidious by "taking him by surprise", Mara Jade died of a poisonus dart, etc. On the other hand, your statement about Palpatine is entirely up to debate, as it is yet another bold comment with no explanation whatsoever, save your lovely words supporting it. Prove me wrong, detail how Palpatine is "best" than Naga Sadow, Caedus, Ruin, Bane, Kaan, Ajunta Pall, Kraayt,... hell, even Revan,... as a Sith Lord. Better yet, tell us how this being "best" is defined! How did you arrive to such great definition of what is the "best Sith Lord", seeing as that shows you have undoubtedly delved deep into objective thinking and Star Wars lore... I am a big Sidious fan, and many of us here have reached the conclusion he is one of the most cunning, powerful and succesful Sith Lords ever. However, "he is ONE", and the precise adjectives used, are the key factor here.

The death star?The dudes first post mentions armies fool! Best sith lord....oh my god listen dude! Lucas said it himself, other star wars writers have said it Palpatine is the most powerful Sith Lord that has ever existed And Lucas' word is law, unfortunate in some places. So stop acting the big man and get it straight.




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#9 10 years ago

well i'd say kotor team, revan was a bigger manipulator then palpatine, i mean anakin was kinda stupid, but strong. revan turned 1/3 of the republic army and killed or turned most of the jedi, so he had thousands of dark jedis, while palpatine had one at a time, and palpatine just turned clones with modifyed gens so they can't resist orders and bagstapped all the jedi and made a empire. and palpatine and vader killed also alot of their good commanders, just cus they did one thing wrong. palpatine also kinda sucked in saber skills. but palpatines and vaders army have one thing above, better technology. but nihilus killed entire planet with the force to feed his power.




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#10 10 years ago
krissmusrevan was a bigger manipulator then palpatine

Oh right... Palpatine managed to escape death, hide himself for ages from the Jedi Council, and even the whole senate, unlike Revan.

I'd say Vader and Palpatine. They form an excellent team. As I've said before; I don't believe in game ideals anyway.


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