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Inyri Forge Advanced Member

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#31 12 years ago

Sorry, would saying it was a silly comparison have been better? *sigh* Semantics.




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#32 12 years ago

Eh, life is full of red tape. Sad fact.


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#33 12 years ago

Inyri Forge;4185062 As I said before, Obsidian Entertainment didn't even exist when KotOR was in development, so it's really a very dumb comparison to make seeing as how it never possibly could have happened. Not to mention I'm relatively sure nothing would have been significantly different. Of course I'm sure if you're passing off your own opinions as fact you must work in the industry and have some kind of information we don't.

And yet you keep on like you think you know what you're talking about without considering the obvious facts. You're talking like a KotOR fanboy, and that's what we take exception to. Open your eyes, please.

I didnt bring up the comparison Kouen did - I merely responded to it. No where have I said my opinion was fact; I was merely discussing a hypothetical situation where had Obsidian and Biowares positions would have been reversed would Bioware now be getting panned and Obsidian hailed as being brilliant.

As I said I may not be explaining myself very well - I was only trying to play devils advocate. Your entitled to your opinion and im entitled to mine. And im allowed to air it thank you very much. Theres no need to be insulting because its different from yours.

EDIT: I dont really think its semantics to be called on calling someone STUPID because their opinion isnt the same as yours or they MAY not know as much as yourself.

Kouen - I wasnt dismissing Neverwinter Nights. And I didnt say K1 made Bioware. I just - repeatedly - that Bioware earned a LOT Of money and brand power from K1 and cashing in on the Star Wars franchise that if they had not then they would not be in as strong a position today. Thats true and nothing either you or inyri has said has desputed that.

I apologise for any misunderstandings here. :(

EDIT2: Also Kouen you said that I cant really make blanket statements about certain things if I cant back them up - you are correct. I attempted to but I havent communicated myself very well obviously. Granted the bad things about Atari (Infogrames Publishing Division) that I know of happened a while ago and ive not heard anything really bad since - so perhaps they did clean up their act. If they have then its good news for Developers out there.

As to EA buying over Bioware - I will most likely be the same as you. Be extremely wary of buying Bioware games from now on because of the EA tag.




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#34 12 years ago
ganoesparan06;4185125 EDIT: I dont really think its semantics to be called on calling someone STUPID because their opinion isnt the same as yours or they MAY not know as much as yourself.

That's not up to you to decide. For your interest, Inyri used to be Supermod long before I was, so she probably knows the rules by now. She didn't call you stupid, she called your comparison stupid (with good reason, too), I just intervened in order to get this thread back to more friendly terms and you're not exactly helping, so please just drop all this personal stuff or leave it for PMs and continue discussing whatever you people want to discuss here.




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#35 12 years ago
MrFancypants;4185157That's not up to you to decide. For your interest, Inyri used to be Supermod long before I was, so she probably knows the rules by now. She didn't call you stupid, she called your comparison stupid (with good reason, too), I just intervened in order to get this thread back to more friendly terms and you're not exactly helping, so please just drop all this personal stuff or leave it for PMs and continue discussing whatever you people want to discuss here.

Well it sounded like that.

And it wasnt my comparison - it was just something I was discussing.

But thats fair enough ok. I apologise again.




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#36 12 years ago

Black Isle=p




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#37 12 years ago

ganoesparanI didnt bring up the comparison Kouen did[/quote]JCarter426 brought it up, I just quoted him and gave a hypothetical outcome to his hypothetical scenario.

Everyone blame JCarter! :o

Either way, I don't dispute that Bioware will have made a profit and gained some karma from KotOR, but it's really a drop in the bucket for them on the counts of both profit and fame. Every time I mention Bioware to someone, KotOR is usually the last thing they think of, which is really odd in my social circles given how almost everyone I frequently associate with is almost nerdy enough to attend Star Wars cosplay conventions.

To be honest, I think KotOR was all but forgotten in the publicity machine once Jade Empire started taking shape, the poor thing. The Star Wars franchise may be powerful, but even that can't compete with technological advancements. =p

[quote=ganoesparan]Granted the bad things about Atari (Infogrames Publishing Division) that I know of happened a while ago

But you see, my point wasn't about how they're old news and should be forgiven and forgotten, my point was really that none of those three specific scenarios you listed as examples had anything to do with Atari. Atari wasn't even in the publishing market when two of those scenarios occured, and the third (MOO3) wasn't an Atari title, as evidenced by the fact the Atari brand name wasn't used on it.

Credit where credit is due, blame where blame is due, etc.


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#38 12 years ago
Kouen;4185190JCarter426 brought it up, I just quoted him and gave a hypothetical outcome to his hypothetical scenario. Everyone blame JCarter! :o

:lol:




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#39 12 years ago

Ooooooooook i have just played Mass Effect......Bioware would definatly be best choice lol