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Darth Dracon

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#31 11 years ago

I'm not sure. But eventually, speculation would lead you to the conclusion that either some Sith got a hold of a Jedi Lightsaber by theft or murder and then added their designs and spin on it. Or perhaps a fallen Jedi took the weapon to the Sith. Does anyone know? I would like to.




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#32 11 years ago

As far as I know it is a story which has not been told. However, I believe it is correct, since early drafts of Xendor and Ajunta Pall's exiled Dark Jedi bear no lightsabers. And indeed, lightsabers of the Great Hyperspace War were dependant of external batteries, till the thousand years period between that conflict and the Beast Wars of Onderon. If we take into account every Jedi Knight during Tales of the Jedi wields lightsabers with miniaturized power cells, it would give the technology has been around for some time. Furthermore, flashbacks on Exar Kun's training show the very same. Perhaps one day we may get the scoop on how such things happened.




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#33 11 years ago

Well, I thought the final test for a Jedi was to build a lightsaber without being told how to build one. Wouldn't really make any sense if a Force vision wasn't a prerequisite that way.




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#34 11 years ago

No, no, no. They are taught how to do it. In both Tales of the Jedi and the Young Jedi knights novels, students are shown how to create a lightsaber. The lightsaber test is something they've studied about. They don't construct the weapon without previous knowledge of how to do it. The test lies in doing so right and in placing the focusing crystal, which is the truly difficult part, and the one bearing ritualistic meaning to the Jedi. The Force Vision is not a requisite, but a consequence, and in some cases, as the padawan is encouraged to "inmerse" in the Force so as to place the crystal correctly.




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#35 11 years ago

Oh, so it's just the crystal. Well, how would a simple miner figure it out without the Force, hmm? ;)

Remember that the only non-Jedi (that we know of) who constructed a lightsaber without being told how was Jade Korr, who turned out to be Force Sensitive.




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#36 11 years ago
Jedijax;4327831No, no, no. They are taught how to do it. In both Tales of the Jedi and the Young Jedi knights novels, students are shown how to create a lightsaber. The lightsaber test is something they've studied about. They don't construct the weapon without previous knowledge of how to do it. The test lies in doing so right and in placing the focusing crystal, which is the truly difficult part, and the one bearing ritualistic meaning to the Jedi. The Force Vision is not a requisite, but a consequence, and in some cases, as the padawan is encouraged to "inmerse" in the Force so as to place the crystal correctly.[/quote] [quote=JCarter426;4327882]Oh, so it's just the crystal. Well, how would a simple miner figure it out without the Force, hmm? ;) Remember that the only non-Jedi (that we know of) who constructed a lightsaber without being told how was Jade Korr, who turned out to be Force Sensitive.

No, it's not just the crystal, but it is a big part of it. And I've never heard of any miners using lightsabers as tools. Can you tell me where you learned that? Any non Jedi can build a lightsaber, however it ain't gonna work worth a damn. The idea is during training, the padawan is taught to build a lightsaber. The padawan spends his/her alone time meditating, reading plans and schematics basic to all lightsaber designs, crafts their own to fit their personality and presents it to their master. At some point, the master takes the padawan to the crystal caves controlled and harvested by the Jedi so that the padawan may have en experience touching the FOrce and feeling it's power very intensely. At this point the padawan might have a Force Vision and that vision would lead the padawan to choosing a crystal. But it must be sized and refined. Not all raw crystals can be used effectively in lightsaber construction. Some, like color crystals for blades, must be cleaned and refined so that the light energy that passes through it will be clear and defined producing the desired color and intensity of that color. It follows the similar principles of LASER physics. Then the padawan, using only the Force puts the pieces of the finished lightsaber and the color crystal together. Once done, the master tests it. It is rare that all padawans get the fit right the very first time, usually it could take several tries. Problems arrise such as improper fitting of the focusing gem or lens, the improper modulation of the amplitude, the power output is set to high or to low, the crystals used in its construction might be of low grade quality, the self contained power source might need adjustment, etc. There are a number of problems that could occur in lightsaber construction. It all depends on how patient you are and how closely to attend to the details.




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#37 11 years ago
Darth Dracon;4327923No, it's not just the crystal, but it is a big part of it. And I've never heard of any miners using lightsabers as tools. Can you tell me where you learned that?

Jax said it, not me.




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#38 11 years ago

I have already double-checked my sources and found no info on the lightsaber being originaly a mining tool. But I swear I read it somewhere... in a visual encyclopedia or a storyline companion-book... or something like that... Anyway, since it doesn't appear to have been officialy addressed in any other source, you should at least give me the benefit of doubt!! Besides, J, the focusing crystal crystal may be placed by mechanical methods. Jedi are supposed to do this in a ritualistic manner, but it doesn't exclude the possibility of other beings or methods achieving the very same. This would explain the, otherwise, obcene amount of present lightsabers in several time periods, even some in which Force-users have been severely diminished. Again, this is mere speculation, but I don't see any actual reference contradicting it.




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#39 11 years ago

I believe you Jedijax. Now that I think about it, I think I might have heard that it was a mining tool as well at one point. I have never been able to either prove or disprove that hypothesis, but it is just as interesting as any other theory one might pose. As for the second part, remember that Jedi come and go, but a lot of times, their lightsabers get handed down from Master to Padawan or are returned to a family member as a momento. Yet a lot of lightsabers are destroyed or lost. This is why the Jedi teach all padawans how to make a lightsaber. A Jedi may build several during their lifetime for several reasons. Anakin Skywalker was constantly losing his or having it destroyed, remember? I like to think that more times than not, a master may pass his personal lightsaber onto his padawan and when the padawan becomes a master, he passess on his master's lightsaber on to his padwan. This strengthens the Force Bond between master and apprentice and creates a history for the lightsaber and the Jedi that it is passed on to. Sort of carrying the torch from the past to the future. I like looking at it in that way.




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#40 11 years ago

Well, when it comes to "lost Lightsabers", nobody did a better job of guarding a cache of them than Ood Bnar....

Did I say anybody? I should have said any Force Sensitive talking tree.