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themanclaw

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#1 10 years ago

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/...4900001&start=1

"Things to know about the new timeline- well, the Imperium is literally falling apart and is now in the Age of the fall, or something, it seems that after the Age of Apostacy there were huge purgings for thousands of years. The Space Marines are being directed to take more of a direct control over worlds that are rebelling while the Macharian worlds had a recent and massive rebellion where it took 100 space marine chapters to quell. Meanwhile, Space Marines are being swayed by Huron Blackheart who is turning loyal marines to his piratical cause- they say its amazing how many loyal marines turn but this could be because the Imperium is falling apart. In addition, the AdMech have discovered irreperable damage to the Golden Throne while the Astronomicon is dimming to such a degree that contact can no longer be maintained with distant worlds like Macragge. "

"The Imperium failing is supposed to be a reflective of the Age of Strife, just replace the Golden men with Space Marines- it's really interesting stuff and will represent huge fluff opportunities as Space Marines take more direct control over their regions and maybe give up on the Imperium which seems to be just purging their own ranks since the Apostacy- its all very well thought out."

"The light of the Astonomicon is failing, and communication with Macragge and Ultramar have been disrupted"

Could this be the beginning of the end for the Imperium as we know it? Could the Emperor be close to either comin back or reincarnating? Could the Ultramarines be leaving to form their own empire?

Personally, I think it more probable that hat the Imperium will not fall, and even if it does, humans are will find new leadership, or will still continue to be a major power for the simple reason:

GW will not abandon the Space Marines, the universal symbol of 40k and their main 'money bringer' out of any other the other games, let alone races.

Not to mention that the Imperial Gaurd is #3 or 4

And if they abandon the Imperium they will also have to abandon the Inquisitorial armies.

of course, all of this deals with the new edition of the 40k rules.




In Hoc Signo

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#2 10 years ago

The worse things may go, the stronger the Human race becomes. The Imperium will endure.. No matter the cost. (This is Official Propaganda, please don't start flaming)




sage62

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#3 10 years ago

Huh, looks like the major pawer in the universe may be falling again, just like the Eldar did, though like the Eldar they have sort of brought it upon themselves by living in fear so long and such, Imperial Guard recruitement methods are reason enough for rebellion "you can fire a gun? Congratulations, you're now a member of the Imperial Guard", and since a certain "somebody" believes I shouldn't generalize guard like that, then let me change it to Cadian recruitment methods, at least, I think it's the Cadians, if it does happen, perhaps they will stop beign so proud and consider negotiation instead of full out xenocide, if it doesn't, then oh well, they'll fall eventually:D




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#4 10 years ago
they will stop beign so proud and consider negotiation instead of full out xenocide

It is now clear as water: you don't love me anymore, sage! :cry:




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#5 10 years ago

Well, I severely doubt Cadians will start negotiating with their prime opponents, the Legions of Chaos. Unless a particularly powerful heretical psyker manages to sway all the minds of the inhabitants of planet Cadia, which I suppose is possible, unless there happens to be a large number of "blanks" in the Cadian regiments (blanks are psychically blank individuals, able to repel mental and telekinetic powers, in case you didn't know). But as for the "end" of mankind, perhaps they really mean "particularly difficult time" for mankind. Or if it really is the "end", they (GW) will probably draw it out so much as to make it "never-ending" for the enthusiasts, which if looked at in a critical way, it really becomes an oxymoron. Which makes no sense.




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#6 10 years ago

Imperium can not fall...it can only change.




themanclaw

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#7 10 years ago
then let me change it to Cadian recruitment methods, at least, I think it's the Cadians

I suggest that you read my little lecture, you'll understand the Cadians more and may not be so quick to generalize the IG, the Imperium's #1 defense and the largest and most diverse entity in the galaxy (that last sentence is not opinion, it has been stated by GW many times)

[IG LECTURE] The general Cadian soldier has strong flak armor, almost equivalent to carapace, and strong, accurate lasguns called 'long lases' many Cadians are also grizzled veterans and go on special operations involving stealth and ambushes in small groups and such. Cadian tactics are similar to those of the British in WW2 (NOT WW1)

Cadians are fames for their skill and discipline. They tend to use elite shock troopers to lead attacks (and on occasion Ogryns) They need heavy fire power to push back the tides of the warp and as such their favored weapon is the autocannon, a versicle weapon for facing such a volatile enemy.

You are right in saying that the Cadians make most everyone serve, as in their fortress home world "birth rate and recruitment rate are synonymous" However, they need everyone to help fight off the hordes of Chaos because of the importance of Cadia itself as a doorway to the heart of the Imperium. And in this way, such recruitment is justified to keep the Imperium intact. The conscripts (which make up about 1/4 of the infantry grunts) are those who are newly recruited and are typically the ones to die. Darwinism resulting in a strong general soldier. And when you think about it, the Cadians are bred not to attack xenos and genocide like you described, but to defend the Imperium. That's where you get the expression "fortress world". And if a person cannot serve in a typical combat role for whatever reason, than, much like modern day military, are assigned a non-combat role.

So no, the Cadian recruitments are not reason enough for rebellion.[/IG LECTURE]




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#8 10 years ago

and sage not all impeuriem just you alein you die now.... thier more focuesd on defendign thier empire and caidians arent u can fire a gun then you can join the IG its more like you can fire a gun then you can (can as in not you must) join the Ig but in caidia everyone must be in the miltirey beacause they are being raided by chaos and orks alot and if they fall the impuerim well surly fall beacuse all of chaos's forces can unleash them seleves on the impuriem




sage62

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#9 10 years ago

I know the Imperium doesn't just attack xenos, and I never said Cadians hunt xenos, I know what they do, I just often get Imperial regiments that aren't drastically different such as the Catachan or the Steel Legion cofused with one another, I just used Cadian recruitment as something that I feel could be "improved" upon and such, I feel that forced conscription should only be done when required, not just because you want a bigger army or whatever, I think the general xenocide statement looks as though I was referring to the Acdians with that as well, but it is mainly Space Marines, and it is completely doubtful that the imperium would actually fall, even the Eldar aren't completely gone, but unless Slaanesh dies they will fall eventually, but when they die A new Eldar god will be born who I can't remember the name of who will kill Slaanesh=p




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#10 10 years ago

well, if if a hole in reality pouring out millions upon millions traitors, daemons tanks and everything in between and not mentioned about as close as possible from your home world isn't cause for forced recruitment I don't know what is.