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Seig

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#1 12 years ago

Hey this is my new army and I'm still working on it so please criticze when necesary. And if you would like to add urself as one of the captains please post the stats for the captain so i will kno to add you.

The Crusaders

History- About 200 years ago a secret group of people called the Priors of Scion started meeting in secret places on different planets. They were meeting because they thought that the Emperor was not the person that mankind should be worshipping and they viewed the Emperor as a false idol. Over the years people from all different Chapters started to come to these meetings. Recently there have been a recorded of 10,000 people that have joined the Priors of Scion which now call themselves The Crusaders. With this amount of people Richard the Lionhearted has decided they now have enough power to break away from the Imperium and fight back against the people that worship the Emperor and they have began to fight back and with such force no one could have seen this coming. One of the reasons that The Crusaders are so successful on the battlefield though is due to the fact that they have people from all different kinds of Chapters and that makes them very easy to adapt to any new environment. Rules- -Helmets are only optional for Honor Guards, Captains, and Commanders, everyone else must wear a helmet. -There may only be one of each type of Commander in an army. -If you pick one Commander you may pick two Captains that will count as your other HQ choice, but you may not pick any more HQs if you take the Commander and two Captains. -A Commander may only be accompanied by two Honor Guards and they act as one HQ choice. -Captains are Commanders in training and take the place of the Commander when they leave for any reason. If you have taken the two Captains with the one Commander and all three are of the same type and the Commander is killed during the fight, then the two captains may have a duel between each other during the battle and the winner of the duel becomes a Commander but the loser of the duel must be removed from the board. -Honor Guards will always be killed before the Commander. -Scout can only be on bikes they may not be on foot. -May only have one Iron Father per Army and Iron Fathers are counted as an Elite Choice. -If you pick to accompany an Iron Father with two Iron priests they are counted as a single Elite choice. -Iron Priests may only be used if they are accompanying an Iron Father. -There are no Librarians allowed to be used because the Crusaders see them as unholy. Types of People- Builders-Techmarine, Servitor Knight Templar-Veteran Cavalry-Fast Attack, Heavy Support Hospitaler-Apothecary Scout (only on bikes)- White Chest and Legs, Small Red Cross over Heart, Silver Arms and Hands, Siler Helmet Standard Troop- White body and Legs, Silver arms and Hands, Red Cross on Chest, Silver Helmet Sergeant- White Body and Legs, Silver Arms and Hands, Red Cross on Chest, Silver Helmet, White Cape with Red Cross on Left Shoulder Cavalry- Blue Chest and Legs, White Cross on Chest, Silver Arms and Hands, Silver Helmet Hospitaler Knight- Completely Black Clothes with Gold Cross on Chest, No Helmets Knight Templar- White Chest with Red Cross, Brown Legs, Silver Arms and Hands Silver Helmet, White Cape with Red Cross on Left Shoulder Knight Templar Sergeant- Brown Chest and Legs, Small White Cross over Heart, Silver Arms and Legs, White Cape with Red Cross on Left Shoulder, Silver Helmet Captains (5 different types) Main Captain- Red Chest and Legs, Silver Arms and Hands, White Cross on Chest, Red Helmet, White Cape with Red Cross on Left Shoulder, Silver Helmet Troop Captain- White Chest and Legs, Silver Arms and Hands, Red Cross over Heart, White Cape with Red Cross on Left Shoulder, Silver Helmet Cavalry Captain- Blue Chest and Legs, Gold Cross over Heart, White Cape with Gold Cross on Left Shoulder, Silver Arms and Legs, Silver Helmet Hospitaler Captain- Completely Black Clothes, White Cross over Heart, White Cape with Black Cross on Left Shoulder, No Helmet Templar Captain- Brown Chest and Legs, Black Cross on Chest, White Cape with Black Cross on Left Shoulder, Silver Arms and Legs, Silver Helmet Commanders (only 5)- Main Commander- Red Chest and Legs, Special symbol that goes with his name/title given to him (ex. Richard the Lionhearted had 2 Lions on his Chest) on Chest, Silver Arms and Hands, Red Cape with White Cross on Back of Cape, Red Helmet Troop Commander- White Chest and Legs, Red Cross on Chest, Silver Arms and Hands, White Cape with Red Cross on Back of Cape, White Helmet Cavalry Commander- Blue Chest and Legs, Gold Cross on Chest, Silver Arms and Hands, Blue Cape with Gold Cross on Back of Cape, Blue Helmet Hospitaler Commander- Completely Black Clothes with White Cross on Chest, Black Cape with White Cross on Back, No Helmet Templar Commander- Brown Chest and Legs, White Cross on Chest, Silver Arms and Legs, Brown Cape with White Cross on Back of Cape, Brown Helmet Types of Honor Guards- Main Commander- Honor Guards from the Ultramarine Honor Guard Set Troop Commander- Wolf Guards from the Space Wolves Wolf Guard Set Cavalry Commander- Honor Guards from the Blood Angels Honor Guard Set Hospitaler Commander- Chaplains that have been converted to Hospitaler Crusaders Templar Commander- Terminators that have been converted to Templar Crusaders Vehicles- -Venerable Dreadnaught -All Bikes -Land Raider Crusader -Only 1 Modified suit originally used by Shas’O Mont’ka Mese’Ukos now modified to be used by one Captain Seig as a gift from Commander Richard the Lionhearted for the capture of three Tau planets and the specs for the suit. -Rhino -Whirlwind -Predator Destructor Builders- -1 Iron Father from the Iron Hands Iron Father Set -An Iron Father may be accompanied by 2 Iron Priests from the Space Wolves Iron Priest Set




black_hwk99

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#2 12 years ago

you seem to have put a lot of work into it and it seems pretty good, well done! =-)




Carnivore

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#3 12 years ago

I find it hard to believe, the Crusaders were able to steal vehicles and venerable dreadnoughts, my friend. I wouldn't shaf about a rhino or two, even a predator, but Land Raiders, for chissake! :) By the way, your Crusaders look a lot like the organisation describeb in the old "Inquisitor" Novel. Even though, you seem to have work it pretty well. Maybye you could limit the Vehicle support part and give 'em refitted Leman Russ's at the upmost, I dunno.




Seig

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#4 12 years ago

well its an organization of people that hav come together over hundreds of years so its not necesarily that they stole land raiders its that the people that were its crew joined their side. and they only have land raider crusaders but i probly will limit the amount of vehicles they can use and i will add a form of the leman russ thanx for ur help so far.




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#5 12 years ago
Seigwell its an organization of people that hav come together over hundreds of years so its not necesarily that they stole land raiders its that the people that were its crew joined their side. and they only have land raider crusaders but i probly will limit the amount of vehicles they can use and i will add a form of the leman russ thanx for ur help so far.

I really think you should limit the Crusaders (a tough limitation, I agree) and bar them the use of Land Raiders and Dreadnoughts. BUT, as you told me so rightly, in 200 years, they have drain a lot of people to their cause. If there's a soldier in the Imperium, who can give the finger to the Emperor, it's a guardsman. You could mix your vehicle choice with IG ones. Something like: Bikes Rhino Predator Razorback Salamander or Sentinel Chimera Leman Russ You stay close to that and it will be better balanced. I can't seem to stick with an image of a dreadnought leaving its confinment, buying a space-ticket and fly to the Crusaders... imagine the passage through the metal detector! :D No, seriously, you could fiddle something with a mixed SM/IG Wargear too.




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#6 12 years ago

i like the idea n i will definetly use it n giv u sum cred. and if u want to make urself a captain with any type of special stuff like i did with seig u are more than welcome to (o and he doesnt hav to be a SM he can be IG or wutever). jus tell me type of captain and stats. plus i was thinkin of mixin in the eldar and tau too. (well maybe not the eldar)




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#7 12 years ago
Seigi like the idea n i will definetly use it n giv u sum cred. and if u want to make urself a captain with any type of special stuff like i did with seig u are more than welcome to (o and he doesnt hav to be a SM he can be IG or wutever). jus tell me type of captain and stats. plus i was thinkin of mixin in the eldar and tau too. (well maybe not the eldar)

Well, thanks a lot for the offer of Captainry, I was only Sarge in the Artillery, I'll give it a thought. :D Seriously, for the Eldar and Tau part, methink it should be übervery minimal. As you said yourself, maybe even Tau restricted...and even then, maybe spies or agents helping to unbalance the Imperium...I dunno. You could also fiddle with Adeptus Mechanicus renegades viewing the Machine-God part of the Emperor Icon being forgotten or despised. That way, you can override the minority Tech-Marine problem and expand your "believable" vehicle engineering part. More, always more, with that Rogue Mechanicus (They did turn to Chaos once, so...), you can think about one or two land raiders repaired but less armoured or less efficient than a regular one. You could fiddle with a "Refitted Rule" for vehicle and use it for ALL the SM/IG vehicles up to the Land Raider/Leman Russ class. (No Banebalde, my friend).




Seig

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#8 12 years ago

wut is the refitted rule? o and by the way seig is a main captain and if u want to kno wut his suit is goin to sorta look like then u should go to the tau section of the Medusa V casulty report and he should be there. and i was thinkin of limiting it so that u can only use either one venerable dread or one landraider crusader at a time.




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#9 12 years ago
Seigwut is the refitted rule? o and by the way seig is a main captain and if u want to kno wut his suit is goin to sorta look like then u should go to the tau section of the Medusa V casulty report and he should be there. and i was thinkin of limiting it so that u can only use either one venerable dread or one landraider crusader at a time.

You can always fiddle with the old "Kustom Vehicle" rules from "'ere we go", page 72. However, as refitted, I wanted to say, repaired badly damaged vehicles left on the fields of battle. That way you salvage xxx parts from destroyed or near anihilated Land Raiders to make one. That works for everything.




Seig

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#10 12 years ago

ahh that does work out cuz after 200 hundred years of salvaging parts they would definetly hav enough for a few landriaders enough to make them one per army anyway and i am goin to add tau as spies. (heres the Story) they giv us equipment and in return we let them fight along side our troops and share our information.