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LardButtTheCat

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#1 11 years ago

I was wondering who would win in a all out battle: The strogg or WH 40K (you can pick the race you want). Now at first they seem like they should'nt be compared at all (being two different universes), but seeing the strogg technology and combat styles, they could very well hold their own place in the WH 40K universe. My personal opinion is that the Strogg would give the Imperium a run for it's money, or any other race. Their only two main enimies that would give them a real hassel is the tyranids and orks, but that varies right their. And if those who have no real clue who are the Quake strogg then here's a brief summary: The Strogg are a warlike [COLOR=black]cybernetic[/COLOR] race, infamous for the systematic replacement of their ranks with [COLOR=black]prisoners of war[/COLOR] and the modification of their bodies with mechanical weaponry and [COLOR=black]prosthetics[/COLOR].One of the notable features of the Strogg is their complete lack of sense for the macabre or cruelty and their willingness to do anything to anyone so long as it serves a practical purpose and is in their best interests. They employ warp-holes to invade other planets, for food and resources. Furthermore, the Strogg civilization remains devoid of anything unrelated to war, based streamlined nature of their industry geared for war and that there is no true [COLOR=black]civilian[/COLOR] population among the Strogg. [COLOR=black]Warfare[/COLOR] is accepted as the only way of life, though the origins of this viewpoint are unrevealed. The Strogg expand their armies and population by absorbing non-Strogg species and process them to better serve the Strogg race. Prior to any procedures, [COLOR=black]prisoners of war[/COLOR] may be kept in bare cells and continuously tortured, periodically driving the captives to i[COLOR=black]nsanity[/COLOR]. As of Quake 4, the following procedures are known.

  • Forced Stroggification. An exceptionally painful and brutal process conducted without [COLOR=black]anesthetics[/COLOR], instead utilizing excessive doses of [COLOR=black]steroids[/COLOR] to give the subject enough strength to survive. Limbs are frequently amputated and replaced with implants often hap-hazardly wired and crudely attached to the subject (A doctor onboard the MCC Hannibal comments that Stroggification resembles mutilation more than anything else). If successful, the end result is a [COLOR=black]cyborg[/COLOR]with 50% or less of its original body but with [COLOR=black]physical strength[/COLOR], speed and agility beyond typical human capacity.
  • Experimentation. The Strogg medical community maintains no 'ethics policy' for non-Strogg organisms. Experiments mainly focus on testing human mortality, which involves organ removal, electrical shock, ballistics tests, surgery without anesthetics, environmental stresses and temperature limits. Presumably, all tests concern the victim's suitability for various types of cybernetic augmentation and the conclusions from such experiments are applied to other members of the same species. This process is probably to see if the species is able to be "stroggified", to increase their reliability to "stroggify", or improve the abilities of the stroggified.
  • Recycling. The Strogg have perfected technology which allows them to break any living thing back down into its sheer molecular components; [COLOR=black]amino acids[/COLOR], [COLOR=black]enzymes[/COLOR][COLOR=black], [/COLOR][COLOR=black]mineral[/COLOR] structures and so on. As demonstrated by their other processes, the Strogg exhibit little care as to whether the victim is alive or dead during the process. Parts are also recovered from downed Strogg by the Nexus Core and recycled into stroyent.
  • Torso storage device. Strogg facilities involve a large laboratory that maintain lone human torsos, often recombining them with spare limbs and in rare cases, heads. The heads on torsos exhibit signs of heavy drug use or intoxication of some variety. These torso storage devices, or TSDs, are integral to the power supply, distribution and regulation of Strogg facilities. Damaged units must be replaced immediately or the area which they are based in will switch to emergency power.

So for most of you guys, the strogg are like the mechanical version of the tyranids and like by a orc like culture (but extreamly advance!). So who do you think will win?:eek:




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#2 11 years ago

40k hands down




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#3 11 years ago

The Strog sound power full but there much like the tau to small to be any real threat outside there system. I mean cmon the strog vs the world apon world of Guradsmen ?? no match




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#4 11 years ago

one word space marines. in the quake universe they can barley kill normal 21st century humans imagine them fighting a high tech superhuman solder. even then normal guardsmen could easily fight them, and even before they reach the planet the imperial navy would easily crush the 4 or 5 ships that are attacking.




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#5 11 years ago

Well here's the tactic that the strogg use that is much superior to most races: They usally find a new species that has particular interest to them (let's put humans for example) and examime them for a bit. As we all know, the Imperium is quite spread out, so the strogg will find multiple groups of small IG units. Then they raid either the provinice or planet to gain it's resources and captives. Now here's the scary part: the IG soldiers they capture will be mechanicly and geneticly (but not by that much) modifed into a soldier greatly superior to most Imperium soldiers, but still fall short to space marines. Now that's for normal humans. Let's say they capture some space marines. After "stroggfication" they would become something like that of terminator quality troops, extreamly advance armour that takes up less room than marine armour, and equipped with high end plasma technology plus with extreamly effective hand-to-hand combat skill. But the strogg are not limited to one race. Tau, Eldar, Orks and Tyranids are all capable to become troops. God, the Imperium would be screwed over if the capture a hive tyrant. They would turn that bad-ass into more of a monster than before! Imagine a hive tyrant, but with extra metal and genetic enhancements, their arms (not their scyth like arms) transformed to some sort of plasma cannon and the other into a assault cannon. One last note: Strogg technology exceeds the Imperiums, but not equals up with the Eldar. Also, their form of high speed travel in space is used with wormholes and manipulation of gravity. So they wont be using the warp in any case.




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#6 11 years ago

the solution the impirial space navy aka space marine crusers the gaurd ships and most famous of them all that will pwn anyone that gets in their way the titian legions




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#7 11 years ago

Ok, leme put this step-by-step: first off, we know the imperial fleet is renound for it's ability to destroy almost anything. But lets not play stupid here ok... Though it barely describes in the series of the strogg fleet, it notifies that it's battle crusiers (as the humans say) are about 300% more monuverable and can cover about 5 times the distance than a regular human battle cruiser. Now a human battle cruiser, is a ship of titanic proportions, holding hundreds of tanks, aircraft, mobiel HQs and thousands upon thousands of troops. Literally enough equipment and men to launch a assault on a planet, and take over with succsess (that depends on who's leading it and how it's played out). As its described in Quake 4, mankind has launched a spearhead attack on the Strogg homeworld (or as the assume it was). They deploy 100 battle crusiers to the assault. Within two days, the strogg defense system destroyed 80 of those cruisers. That's how advance the strogg are in technology. Now imagine that in one of their battle crusiers... I assure you that the strogg don't play stupid when it comes into arial/space combat. (cause I sense that alot of people do). Now I dont expect them to win over the entire imperial fleet at once, but with their technology that surpasses The Imperium and their advance fleets, they would give the Imperium a run for it's money.




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#8 11 years ago
LardButtTheCat;4496901Well here's the tactic that the strogg use that is much superior to most races: They usally find a new species that has particular interest to them (let's put humans for example) and examime them for a bit. As we all know, the Imperium is quite spread out, so the strogg will find multiple groups of small IG units. Then they raid either the provinice or planet to gain it's resources and captives. Now here's the scary part: the IG soldiers they capture will be mechanicly and geneticly (but not by that much) modifed into a soldier greatly superior to most Imperium soldiers, but still fall short to space marines. Now that's for normal humans. Let's say they capture some space marines. After "stroggfication" they would become something like that of terminator quality troops, extreamly advance armour that takes up less room than marine armour, and equipped with high end plasma technology plus with extreamly effective hand-to-hand combat skill. But the strogg are not limited to one race. Tau, Eldar, Orks and Tyranids are all capable to become troops. God, the Imperium would be screwed over if the capture a hive tyrant. They would turn that bad-ass into more of a monster than before! Imagine a hive tyrant, but with extra metal and genetic enhancements, their arms (not their scyth like arms) transformed to some sort of plasma cannon and the other into a assault cannon. One last note: Strogg technology exceeds the Imperiums, but not equals up with the Eldar. Also, their form of high speed travel in space is used with wormholes and manipulation of gravity. So they wont be using the warp in any case.

of course it dose, they may seem strong in there universe but considering the humans of 40k have dealt with much more advanced technology and won says something about there skill and ability to adapt. you cant improve upon a space marine. even if they where to genetically enhance them more they don't have Power Armour tech witch is much more than just flimsy armour suits used by the strogg or the knowledge of marine biology. and attempt to stroggified a marine would result in death or crippling mutation. and they can't stroggified a tyranoid (know i spelt wrong) because without the hive mind they die and decompose very fast, then again that's assuming they capture one considering splinter fleets are billions strong. and so what if they stroggified normal solders they couldn't defeat the humans in there universe how can they beat Billions more, with deadly weapons and a millenium of experience in warfare. Ships: psshhh, ya right imperial ships have not just huge layers of armour but shield 2, as well as close defence turrets and fighter bays. not to mention massive main guns and advanced targeting arrays. Tech: so what they have some shinny plasma tech, and advance Space travel .but so what the tua have thoughs things and yet the imperials hold the line. i haft to say the strogg are to insignificant of a force to affect the balance of the 40k universe




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#9 11 years ago

You don't seem how advance they are do you? (not to be rude) It has been notified that one of their most powerful weapons does not consist of plasma, metal projectiles or any sort of energy. This weapon uses the manipulation of gravity. Yes gravity. When fired, this thing litteraly creates a breif miniture size blackhole that sucks up anything in it's way, then destructs after a while and shoots out anything it gathered. It's been shown in multiple parts of the game and backgound history that this weapon (know as the Dark Matter Gun) has weaked havoc upon whole regiments of soldiers and tanks. One thing I know about the imperium is it's lack of updating technology at a consistant rate. They consider "alien" technology heretical and forbiddon and takes years upon end for them to approve a design of a new tank of some sort. despite the fact that their understanding of the technology they use is limited at best, with much of their procedure based on ritual and religious dogma rather than genuine engineering or mechanical skill. Strogg technology is not limited. Their rules are simple and effective: 1) Find a new civilaztion to conquer 2) If it has new technology that they dont have, they simple take it and improve it. 3) If they find a species that seem fitting for war, they stroggifiy it. 4) Captives = troops 5) Any species is capable for war. Sure the Imperial fleet is titanicly large, but you have to remember, the imperium is massive and their are bound to be thousands of planets ripe to be harvested without opposition. Strogg are highly know for raids as well. Not don't give me that crap about they can't do it because of the Imperium. They can do it just as effectively as the Dark Eldar can. Dark Eldar use the webway, Strogg use wormholes. Simple as that. One last thing: their armour technology uses quality rather than bulk that of a space marine, and yes, they do have energy sheilds that can withstand unimaginable amount of punishment. Their energy sheilds are also know (as it also tells in the game) to vaperize anything that does not have strogg "permission".




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#10 11 years ago

u have a very good (and very intimidating) point. they may take the small planets that have little (if any) defence. but when it comes to the main planets and top manufacturing facilitys like mars the empirium will throw every thing it gots at the strog. in the game ur limited to one baneblade or 2 leman russes. but on its own turf imagine hundreds apon hundreds of baneblades, hell maybe even a titan or 2. sure they may take said planet but theyll take a beatin while there at it. plus dont forget that space marines are also involved where the IG is. and they dont go down unless they're dead or extremely wounded. i dont think theyll mess with marine genetics anytime soon. as for the armor... well im caught there. yes IG are notorious for shitty armor. and space marines probably have no more protection then a tin can against the strog. but dont for get that the impirium takes up a nice chunk of the galaxy. then theres the inquisition and the witch hunters and the adeptas astartes and what not. u might just be thinking about the main armys like space marines and IG. but dont forget that when in danger all the many factions WITH IN the impirium will come to arms like the SoB and alien hunters and what not. the impirium is much larger then u think. the have 40k beat in armor and beat the impirium in savagry but not in numbers. on most of the planets theyll try to take another race will be trying to take and then that race will get angry and then theyll get tied up in this as well. i guess its a 50/50 chance the impirium will overcome the strog. but orks in another story all together