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quetzalcoatl2012

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#1 11 years ago

Well, since the holidays are coming up, i got the time to make this thread i was thinking of doing. Now then...

I notice that on these forums, if one might be looking for some information on warhammer 40k material, one might have to dig through alot of threads to get the desired information that one is seeking. I thought, why not have a thread with the answer right there. So i decided to make this thread, not only for links, pics, and whatever else but also so that people may talk about things related to the topic at hand. Now someone might say, "Hey Quetzalcoatl, why not tell them to go to Wikipedia?", well some might have never even heard of Wiki and so if they find this place first, they can get the answers they have been looking for.

Now the topic at hand are the Primarchs. Who or what are they? What are the histories of each primarchs? Which space marine legions did each Primarch control? And many more questions and/or answers.

Now as someone that lives out in the middle of nowhere, when i first heard of the Primarchs, i thought, "Who they hell are the Primarchs?". I'm sure may others have thought the same when they first heard of them also. So i decided to do some research and this is what i came up with.

Primarch: A superhuman created by a superhuman psychic (maybe a demigod?) known as the Emperor. The purpose was to help the Emperor retake the galaxy for the imperium and to ensure it's safety (also note that the Primarchs were the first attempts by the Emperor at creating the next step of human evolution). Created using the Emperor's own DNA. Originally there were 20 Primarchs but, 18 are known to be found.

The 18 known Primarchs are as followed. *Note that the name underneath the bold is a link*

Lion El'Jonson, Primarch of the Dark Angels Lion Fulgrim, Primarch of the Emperor's Children Fulgrim Perturabo, Primarch of the Iron Warriors Perturabo Jaghatai Khan, Primarch of the White Scars Jaghatai Leman Russ, Primarch of the Space Wolves Leman Rogal Dorn, Primarch of the Imperial Fists Rogal Konrad Curze, Primarch of the Night Lords Konrad Sanguinius, Primarch of the Blood Angels Sanguinius Ferrus Manus, Primarch of the Iron Hands Ferrus Angron, Primarch of the World Eaters Angron Roboute Guilliman, Primarch of the Ultramarines Roboute Mortarion, Primarch of the Death Guard Mortarion Magnus the Red, Primarch of the Thousand Sons Magnus Horus, Primarch of the Luna Wolves Horus Lorgar, Primarch of the Word Bearers Lorgar Vulkan, Primarch of the Salamanders Vulkan Corax, Primarch of the Raven Guard Corax Alpharius, Primarch of the Alpha Legion Alpharius

Each link goes to the Primarch in question and gives a brief history on them and also some small info on the legion that the Primarch in question commands.

If you want to add to this thread, be my guest. But please state where you got your info if you can't link it. One thing i hate is when people start stating opinion as fact (these forums seem to have this problem).

Well, Enjoy!




venonat80

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#2 11 years ago

the other 2 missing primarch was intenationly left out bye GW so that fans and players could make their own chapter and story in the WH 40k world. If you want MY opinion one of these missing primarch is the primarch for the Blood Ravens, they have little knowledge of their past and know nothing of their origins. Dark Crusade makes some referance relics that the Blood Ravens need to protect for their history. Maybe they have information about this missing primarch. I could be completely wrong, but i would make one hell of a story and sequal to the DOW game. Also if you don't want to pay for the codex, wikipedia.com helps alot with the story of the SM and the other races.




quetzalcoatl2012

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#3 11 years ago
venonat80;3376119the other 2 missing primarch was intenationly left out bye GW so that fans and players could make their own chapter and story in the WH 40k world. If you want MY opinion one of these missing primarch is the primarch for the Blood Ravens, they have little knowledge of their past and know nothing of their origins. Dark Crusade makes some referance relics that the Blood Ravens need to protect for their history. Maybe they have information about this missing primarch. I could be completely wrong, but i would make one hell of a story and sequal to the DOW game. Also if you don't want to pay for the codex, wikipedia.com helps alot with the story of the SM and the other races.

Yeah, i went ahead and linked some info about the primarchs under their names from wiki (Maybe i should have highlighted the links better?). But some people dislike wiki because some claim that wiki isn't fact, just opinions made into fact. So i dislike using wiki for that but it is the best source for 40k material. I normally go get my info from the relic forums since Robert Frazier over there is a fluff god.:deal:

In anycase, go ahead and continue on with some more info about the primarchs.




venonat80

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#4 11 years ago

Most of the stuff on wiki has been source by, what i thought, was a very trustworthy from GW and White Dwarf. If anything was from fans or wiki people simply didn't know if it was true or not, then they would say "fans think..." or something like that. In ether case they try to put true stuff on there. As for White Dwarf magazine, I think it is a hobby or fan based mag, I would understand if you didn't want sources from them cuz it is hard to tell fact from opinion there. I really hate this open story about the primarchs, you really don't know the fate of some of them, Leman Russ runs off somewhere, Roboute Guilliman is what? premantent statis? Bring some of these guys back for the DOW games. The table top games probably won't mention the primarchs again, most likely cuz what i said before, so that fans could make their own story for their own made up chapters. wikiapida.com




Zichael

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#5 11 years ago

My favorite is Sanguinius just because I am a BA fan, but I don't think I can add anything to the wiki because that basically sums it all up




Amon-Chakay

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#6 11 years ago

I also agree with that coment you said that the 2 primarch where intentionaly left out, to give the TT players make they're own chapters, as i made mine hehehe. Thats a good chance, but GW could make some rules on making your own primarch, dont you think? as the points they cost, some rules or stats, thing like that

My primarch costs 300 points and his stats are

WH->6 PH->5 S->6 S->6 W->5 I->6 A->4 L->10 (don't know the name in english:P)->2+/5+ 300 points

(I think i translated well the name of every stat)




Sekmet

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#7 11 years ago
venonat80;3376119the other 2 missing primarch was intenationly left out bye GW so that fans and players could make their own chapter and story in the WH 40k world. If you want MY opinion one of these missing primarch is the primarch for the Blood Ravens, they have little knowledge of their past and know nothing of their origins. Dark Crusade makes some referance relics that the Blood Ravens need to protect for their history. Maybe they have information about this missing primarch. I could be completely wrong, but i would make one hell of a story and sequal to the DOW game.

well the last part is right, the bit about u being wrong that is :) for starters the primarcs were not in chapters they had legions only a few like 3-4 made it to chapters, GW has no reason to leave them out cos chapters dont need a primarch (theres over 1000 chapters) the geneseed is mixed from them all (the loyal ones) the blood raven are a section of the thousand sons that did not go into the eye of terror but for some reason were kept in the emps good graces, thats why they have so many psychics.

Thousand sons, Thousand sons




Vasili

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#8 11 years ago

I heard form a Manager that Forge world might be Doing Pre heresy stuff for games-workshop with Codex, Special Chars, Models, Thanks the lot. I think the Two missing legions might be Iron Snakes and Space Sharks because they have been around since rouge trader. Maybe the reason they are not on the Marine list is because they were destoryed or missing in action.




SteviEboY

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#9 11 years ago
Sekmet;3377068 the blood raven are a section of the thousand sons that did not go into the eye of terror but for some reason were kept in the emps good graces, thats why they have so many psychics.

woo, i never heard that before, but reading in to their, the bloodravens, history it could be true .. which would be very intresting. hmm, blood ravens have perfect recollection but don't dream, couold this be a result of brain washing so they don't remember that they are part of the TS? But how would they have been left behind? Also, as its suggested could this be a rues by Ahmrihan (?) for some gain or sway over the chapter ? Most of the loyalists chapters are formed from the Ultramarines geneseed as its the purest and doesn't suffer from any mutation.




XThe_MasterX

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#10 11 years ago

what are primachs?