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kow_ciller

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#1 9 years ago

Alright, so I thought I'd ask you guys and see what you'd recommend. Right now I have the option to buy a Diamond Radeon 4890 XOC for $155shipped from one of the members of the benching team I belong to. Or I can buy a MSI 4870 1gb card from an e-tailer for $137- $20mir for $117amir. Im really tempted to get the 4890 even though its a used card, but the only problem I see with it is cooling the mosfets and vregs using the tiny sinks that come with the hr-03gt. I know the 4890 is a tried and true overclocker (983core/1178mem) but the 4870 would be new. Any input would be appreciated. (Dont tell me to get a gtx275/260 unless you find a cheaper option than the 4870/4890)




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#2 9 years ago
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They're pretty much neck and neck, and if that's the case, you should get the latter.


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#3 9 years ago

@ last one. I TOTALLY play on a 30" LCD.

Performance between cards isn't that much of a concern, what im mostly worried about is using an aftermarket sink to cool the cards but I've heard about 4890s dying when using aftermarket cooling which is why I was hoping some guys with 4870s or 4890s could give some input into the matter.




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#4 9 years ago

If the used 4890 has already proven to be an overclocker, I'd see that as a sign that it will successfully overclock after you buy it. I don't know if your benchmark club will let you test the GPU for max temps, overclockability, etc. but if you can, I'd do it. Also, I tend to want to stay away from MIR's, because most of them are a serious pain to get accepted, not to mention they can take months to find out whether it was accepted or not. I have NO actual experience whatsoever with either card, so I can't really help on which card to get though.




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#5 9 years ago
Performance between cards isn't that much of a concern, what im mostly worried about is using an aftermarket sink to cool the cards but I've heard about 4890s dying when using aftermarket cooling which is why I was hoping some guys with 4870s or 4890s could give some input into the matter.

You could keep whatever the reference heatsink uses to cool the bits that aren't covered by what you get with the HR-03, and use the heatsink itself to cool just the core. But I haven't had problems with my card in terms of overheating. After RMA'ing it, it'll go up to 100C+ without crashing, and I once had it run for about 3 days straight with the fan tweaked so it stayed at roughly 70C without any problems (Folding@home). But with the fans turned up to 35% (the highest it will go without being audible over the CPU and case fans) my card won't go over 60.




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#6 9 years ago

I would go with the 4890.

Its going to be faster out of the box even at stock speeds than the 4870. Overclocking on the 4870's is more of a hit or miss kind of thing while the 4890 are well known to overclock well. My Sapphire 4870 1GB will clock to 800/1000 rock solid stable, but anything over that it craps out almost instantly, thats even the Toxic Edition with their custom PCB and cooler.

@ Computernerd, those are some terrible looking benchmarks....




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#7 9 years ago

I would say 4870. Only because I hate my 4890 - but then thats due to terrible drivers and general product stability.

And like you said, the 4870 is new - not used and abused




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#8 9 years ago
Mr. Pedantic;4939645You could keep whatever the reference heatsink uses to cool the bits that aren't covered by what you get with the HR-03, and use the heatsink itself to cool just the core. But I haven't had problems with my card in terms of overheating. After RMA'ing it, it'll go up to 100C+ without crashing, and I once had it run for about 3 days straight with the fan tweaked so it stayed at roughly 70C without any problems (Folding@home). But with the fans turned up to 35% (the highest it will go without being audible over the CPU and case fans) my card won't go over 60.

Thats what I was thinking. The plate that the reference cooler should be fine for the mosfets and ram, but im not sure if it will get in the way of the hr-03 since you have to use low-profile ramsinks around the heatpipes. Oh well, I'll have to wait and see.




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#9 9 years ago

I would go with the 4870 as it is brand new. The 4890 is used and used by some one who sounds like they have already abused it. My 4870 (Saphire 512) runs slightly hot @ 67 at idle with auto fan but will not go above 75 at load. I did however take Mr.Pedantics advice a while ago and set the fan to 35% and I can hardly hear it while my temps dropped to 40 at idle and 55 at load. Which reminds me i think I forgot to rep for that :bows:




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#10 9 years ago

I'm using a 4870 (Sapphire 1gb) for gaming at 1600x1080 resolutions. It has enough power for the job but it is very loud, it is in fact the loudest card I've ever used. My version already has a different fan that is supposed to be less loud but under load it sounds like a jet-engine and is annoying even if you're using a headset with turned up volume.

I doubt the 4890 performs much better in that regard. In either case you should consider buying a high-quality fan along with your card (or buy it pre-modded if you don't want to lose warranty).