Right, I'm going to put the order in for my new PC tonight, and I'd like your opinions - specifically, the RAM. I have two choices - 1gb of Corsair Value, or 512MB of Corsair XMS. There is a possibility that I can afford 1gb of XMS, however that would mean sacrificing a 200GB SATA HDD in favour of a 160GB model, and downgrading my mobo slightly, from an Asus A8V-E-SE to an Asus A8S-X.
Now, I'm pretty much certain that I'm going for the XMS - for obvious reasons, faster memory timings, better performance at high temperatures and such - my main question is that would it be worth sacrificing that motherboard and HDD in favour of that 1GB of XMS? I'm 90% sure the answer will be "YES!", however I've been Googling the subject extensively, and there seems to be a rather large question mark over the question of "1gb Value vs 512 Performance".
Any person who can give me a solid opinion, and an explanation shall be rewarded with +3 Karma Points.
It depends on just how important the features are on the motherboard you're sacrificing. If it envolves overclocking capability or USB ports or something, then I would recommend sticking to the better one - you may not need the extra stuff now, but it might save you having to get a new motherboard later down the line.
I think you'll find 1Gb of memory in duel channel makes a difference compared to 512Mb of single-channel RAM, no matter what the timings. Perhaps you're looking to add an extra 512Mb later, but I think it would be better to keep the better motherboard, the bigger hard drive and the more RAM for now - you could use the value RAM in a server or something if you decide to buy the better stuff later.
I always find RAM from old computers useful elsewhere eventually.
Anyway, all of Corsair's RAM is good. And heating really isn't much of an issue unless your case is a particularly bad design or you have a hot video card.
In the end, it's up to you: will you notice much of a difference with the memory with such a fast system anyway?
Hmm, I originally thought that, but I am on a tight budget for such a high-end system. Well, I've ordered the 1gb of XMS minus the high end Mobo and HDD, as I had to make a decision quickly. The lower end one seems identical - it still has Gigabit LAN, onboard sound, PCI-E - but it lacks the flashy add-ons like "Asus MyLogo" and the like. As for the HDD - well, I have an 80gb one now, and I haven't used all that yet. Go figure. :p
- Cooler Master Centurion 5 - ThermalTake 430W Silent PSU - AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego - Asus A8S-X - 1gb Corsair XMS - HIS Radeon X800GTO IceQII 256MB PCI-E - 160gb Maxtor DiamondMax 9 SATA
Anyway, thanks for the response. Karma for j00. :D
Edit: "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Reven again." :(
The difference between the two motherboards seems to be the chipset. Here is a page with the performance of those chipsets, they are quite close to each other: http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/a64-chipsets/index.x?pg=3 and following. The Sis chipset seems to be a bit newer and if you want to use SLI cards you should look for a nvidia chipset, or so I have heard.
Here are the details, it's in German but not too difficult to figure out :) A8 V E SE: http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?showTechData=true&artno=GHEA11tecData
1GB of Ram is, as Reven said, quite noticable. I upgraded from 512 to 1gb this year and got a dramatic performance increase in World of Warcraft. Applications and games which have to load a lot of stuff all of the time will run much faster with more RAM.
Ah, a review. Been looking for that, thanks. :D
nice spec, rookie, except for the Maxtor hard drive, i have seen a few of these breakdown in a short time, pata versions admittedly, but probably the same internals. me no likeee. try a western digital or seagate. i have 2 seagate sata drives that have run real nice for 2 years now
Thinking about it.
Hmm, I have heard of some people having problems with Maxtor drives - but on the other hand, I've seen glowing reviews of them, too. I'll just have to keep an eye on it.
i dont really think its going to matter too much if you go with the cheaper one, i mean it depends on what you want, i mean if your the type of person that can fully fill a 160 gig hard drive (like i probably could considering i filled my 120 and bought another one) then i would go with the cheaper, most likely your not going to notice the timing difference, and personally i would think about doing what i did and get a liquid cooling system, that way you dont have to worry about spending your money on things that work ok at high heats i think i got mine from tigerdirect.com and what you do is stick it in one of you 5 inch drive bays, place a cooling plate over your processor, then a fan in the back of the computer (or optionally place a cooling plate over any PCI slot card, such as a graphics card that runs hot) then attatch it all with tubing, and fill it with water and antifreeze. The fan cools the water as it runs through it, then cools your processor and PCI card, i have that combined with 2 other fans in my computer, and if i wanted i could have my computer run just above room temperature (that way if its like 95 degrees on and my mom dont want to turn on the air conditioning cause she gets that way sometimes, i can still go on my computer without damaging anything) but like i said its all about what you think you need, thats one of the benafits of building your own computer, you can sacrifice things that arent important to you for better parts that are
oh yea and about the hard drive, i wouldnt go with maxtor, i had a maxtor external hard drive for my old ass laptop, and the thing broke down in like under a year, i got a western digital when i bought my new one for my desktop and my only complaint was i thought it ran a little hot, but like i mentioned before about my liquid cooling system that didnt really bother me and i have not had a single problem with it
Well like every one said, go for the 1GB of ram. Games like Battlefield 2 will love the 1GB of ram than its speed. Anyways you can always later on the line upgrade to the XMS.But on the Maxtor drive my 120GB is a Maxtor and I have had 0 trouble with it. Then in my 2nd comp I have a Maxtor Sata2 and had 0 trouble with it too. I guess i'v been lucky then. But meh.