Hi, I posted a similar thread a few days ago, but since then I have had to reset my sights on slightly lower priced systems. So, what do you think of these two systems and which would be the better buy? No.1: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0160398596.1156615492@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccgaddijhkefeecflgceggdhhmdgmh.0&page=Product&sku=850557&fm=0&sm=0&tm=undefined&tabIndex=1 My thoughts: generally nice spec, perhaps an unnecessarily large hard drive, possibly not so good processor and graphics. No.2: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4600+ - Socket AM2 Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition Mini-Tower Micro ATX Case +550W PSU - Black/Silver ASUS M2NPV-VM ,AM2,Geforce 6150+nForce 430,PCIe,1394,GbE- Micro ATX Mainboard 1024MB DDR2 533MHz Memory - (2x512MB) 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB Buffer SONY 16x Dual Layer DVD Writer +R/-R/RW 256MB nVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT - Dual DVI,HDTV & TV-Out + DVI - PCI- Express 19" Widescreen LCD TFT Display with Multi Media, DVI-D, 8ms - TS902W DVI connector Cable 5.1 Channel Surround Sound Audio-SoundMAX (on-board) Logitech S100 - 2x Stereo Speakers Logitech Desktop Keyboard & Optical Mouse Microsoft Works 8.5 +60 Days Microsft Office Trial BullGuard Internet Security 6.0 -AntiVirus/Firewall/Backup/Spamfilter -90 day trial 1x Gigabit LAN (onboard) Classic Warranty - 3 Years Back-to-Base - Parts & Labour £754.13 My thoughts: Better processor and graphics, probably enough hard drive storage, maybe not enough RAM, although i can easily upgrade this when needed. On system 2, would I need the 550W psu or could i get away with a 250W? Also, on system 2, i could switch to a 7600GS graphics card and save £40. Is this a better or worse deal? Thank you for your time. :bows: I was also considering this, which has a nice processor (i think) but i don't think the graphics are good enough for the price. http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@2028369539.1156624247@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccgaddijhkefeecflgceggdhhmdgmh.0&sku=586547&tabIndex=1&page=Product&fm=0&sm=4&tm=undefined
Oh, system no. 2 Hands down. The 6500 cannot compare to the 7600 GT. The 7600 GT has 3x the speed of memory clock, 2x core, and 3 times more pixel piplines. The 7600 GS is just a slightly slower version of the GT, with 2x the mem speed of the 6500, and a little faster core clock. The processor is better too. Intel pentium D compared to AMD Athlon X2...no question, AMD. And for sys no. 2, you might be able to get away with a 350watt psu...but it would have to be a good brand, like Antec or Thermaltake. Stick with the 550, or if a 430watt is available, that would be great.
lol Well that solves that then. Thanks a lot! :) Do you reckon the 7600GT is worth the £40 over the 7600GS? On a £715 or £755 machine.
ewan_bcfclol Well that solves that then. Thanks a lot! :) Do you reckon the 7600GT is worth the £40 over the 7600GS? On a £715 or £755 machine.
I take it the second sys your building? or is it a different website. If your building it, go for an EVGA brand 7600 GT KO OVERCLOCK. The EVGA 7600 GS is a great card, I have one myself. If your a gamer, which your posting in a gameing forum...so I would assume you are, the 7600 GT is worth the extra dough. I had to get an AGP card, and the GT does not come in AGP, and I didn't want to fork over another $150 for a 7800GS.:(
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13th April 2005
Indeed, number two is supperior. It has a better processor, and a better video card.
However number one has 2gigs of ram where as number one only has half as much. But adding ram is an easy upgrade to make later on down the road.
The reason the last one you provided a link to has a lousy graphics card, is the fact that the processor is still more powerful than your number two machine.
If it were me, I'd get the last machine, and upgrade the video card, as that is also an easy upgrade.
EDIT- Yea, I'd say the GT is worth the extra 40 pounds.
Is the intel E6300 much more powerful than the amd 4600+? I ask because i will not have much cash to upgrade the machine initially, so the 2nd system would tide me over nicely until i need the extra RAM, whereas the 3rd one may not fullfill my graphical requirements straight away. If you get me.
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6th March 2005
It competes with it and is a little bit better. Thats whats going in my new system.
ewan_bcfcIs the intel E6300 much more powerful than the amd 4600+? I ask because i will not have much cash to upgrade the machine initially, so the 2nd system would tide me over nicely until i need the extra RAM, whereas the 3rd one may not fullfill my graphical requirements straight away. If you get me.
RAM can be added into empty slots, where you have to take out the old gfx card, put in the new. Not worth it to choose because of RAM. You will pay 100, instead of 200, when you get the RAM, where you will have to pay 180, to get the card, and chuck the old one.
Thanks for the info guys. I am leaning heavily towards no.2 as i reckon the graphics, processor and mobo should last me a while before i need to change them. Do you know if i will have to have a 550W PSU with that setup? I think i read somewhere that the 7600GT needed at least 400W, but then i read something else that i thought disagreed with that, so i'm a bit :confused:
Something important, do you need a MicroATX board. If you don't, go with an ASUS nForce 570 MCP, just under a hundred USD. The one you have picked out is an nforce 4 board. You will regret not getting the nforce 5 features...trust me. But if you need microATX, your pretty much stuck where you are at, oh well...