Apple Killed the Headphone Jack! RIP!!111!BBQCHICKEN!! 11 replies

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c0mpliant VIP Member

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#1 2 years ago

So for content, this has become the default headline for lazy journalists around the world

A better headline would be "Apple abandons another established hardware standard". Whether or not this will or won't be the end of the 3mm headphone jack I will leave to the history books. This isn't a "we've reached the end of history" moment but some journalists are describing it as that. 

Apple don't even have a track record of successfully eliminating hardware standards, the refused to embrace a standard USB cable for its power/data connection on its phones and its not like people are abandoning the standard USB connection any time soon, though USB C could possibly do that but it won't be because of Apple. You can't even credit Apple with the death of Flash, they removed it from devices YEARS ago and its still going strong on the net (much to my annoyance)

I love the idea of Bluetooth headphones, but speaking as someone who had a set of bluetooth headphones, they're not without issue, not least of which is power. I had to charge mine every day for a few hours outside of my normal overnight charge while I was sleeping because my near constant use throughout the day just wasn't enough and so I was back to needing cables which I often times had on just so that I didn't need to think about if it was low on power. Interference was also occasionally a problem in some areas. I love the fact that I have bluetooth as an option, but its not something for all occasions.

Will the 3mm audio jack disappear in the future, almost with certainty but will we look back and say it Apple that killed it off? No. We may look back and say bluetooth killed it off, but we don't even know that at this point. Apple die hard fans will look at this day and think well clearly its the time to switch to a bluetooth headphone, but I would argue that its up to the manufacturers of bluetooth headphones to produce a product that fulfills all the requirements of 3mm jack headphone users to truly kill off the headphone jack, not through forcing users to spend money on a device to replace their trusty connection, but rather to incentivise people to replace their currently perfectly acceptable solution. The 3mm jack will only pass into the realm of floppy disks when no one wants to use it any more, when it falls into disuse. 




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#2 2 years ago

This is the one thing which will put me off buying an iPhone 7 for a long time.

Why would they remove such a small thing? I think it's to create massive controversy. Controversy sells phones.

Also, it's a commercialist goldmine. You lose your headphones, which you will, you're going to have to buy another pair for 150 dollars. Oh, and they have to be bluetooth, you can't just replace them temporarily with a pair from the dollar / pound store which will suffice until you get some new ones.

Pointless move.


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#3 2 years ago

I'm glad I got the 6S plus and didn't wait for the 7, frankly.

But people will buy whatever Apple are selling, and at the end of the day, they're pushing forward technology. I mean I don't even disagree with the philosophy, analogue headphone ports do need to go away and lightning should be the standard for everything.

They're just being super fucking aggressive about it.


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#4 2 years ago

I can see this being pretty annoying for people who like to listen to music while walking around. Hurray, another thing to charge. 




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#5 2 years ago

I remember thinking that I would never abandon wired headphones. Why would I? They've got superior sound and never need to be recharged.

A few months ago I treated myself to a rather nice pair of headphones. These cans have a removable 3.5mm cable, so on purchase the Bluetooth was a gimmick. However upon testing, I found the Bluetooth sound-quality to be just as good (although I'm sure audiophiles would disagree, I just can't hear a difference) and thanks to the 24 hour battery life, I've ran out of batter only twice in 6 months. In both cases I had the 3.5mm wire to hand, or even a portable charger. I even went and got some matching earphones for the gym. Much less battery life, sure, but they're comfy and last enough for the gym. They even came with a carry case which itself is a portable charger.

What's my point? I don't blame Apple for doing this. Like I said, a year ago I would have laughed at the notion of using wireless headphones 99% of the time. Now it's become completely normal to me.

I won't be buying a 7; in fact I'm looking to move away from Apple after owning a 6S for a year, but for completely different reasons.




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#6 2 years ago

My problem with it is that this isn't a consumer led initiative. If the 3.5mm jack was fading in popularity I could understand it, but consumers are still using them by the droves. I've never once heard someone say "why do they bother to keep the 3.5mm jack? No one uses it anymore!".

Call me a skeptic, but something tells me this is to drive people into spend $159 on a new set of headphones. 

I wouldn't mind, but I might actually buy the bluetooth headphones if they get good reviews and I like the sound from them. But Apple dropping the 3.5mm jack really leaves a bad taste in my mouth




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#7 2 years ago

"FileTrekker"I'm glad I got the 6S plus and didn't wait for the 7, frankly.

But people will buy whatever Apple are selling, and at the end of the day, they're pushing forward technology. I mean I don't even disagree with the philosophy, analogue headphone ports do need to go away and lightning should be the standard for everything.

They're just being super fucking aggressive about it.

How big is the adapter because if its big and chunky or something and it makes it annoying to put in your pocket then that will suck to be honest.


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#8 2 years ago

"c0mpliant"My problem with it is that this isn't a consumer led initiative. If the 3.5mm jack was fading in popularity I could understand it, but consumers are still using them by the droves. I've never once heard someone say "why do they bother to keep the 3.5mm jack? No one uses it anymore!".

Call me a skeptic, but something tells me this is to drive people into spend $159 on a new set of headphones. 

I wouldn't mind, but I might actually buy the bluetooth headphones if they get good reviews and I like the sound from them. But Apple dropping the 3.5mm jack really leaves a bad taste in my mouth

Hear, hear. The fact that I can use any headphones for my Galaxy S6 is fantastic. If I want to, I could take my gaming headset and plug it into my phone. I can't do that with an iPhone S7 now, though. And Apple can't give a good reason for why. No one is going "I wish I had more things to charge" or "I wish my phone was thinner". No one has said that for nearly a god damn decade now.

  




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#9 2 years ago

You know what I dislike? Or at least what's becoming a rather old tune? People saying that iphones won't be bought because of a lack of innovation.

"Oh they moved the antenna bar! How original!"

I've got a different story, or at least a more entertaining guess: People don't buy iphones because of innovation. People buy them because it's a reasonably stable platform, without that many major user-interface changes, that works reasonably efficiently.

The war of innovation, such as it ever was in the smartphone market, is over. Big step changes like the change of the original iphone? They matter. But the small things? Not so much, not with this market segment. Once you've got the touch screens, once you've got the app stores, once you've got something that works reasonably fluidly? A lot of what differentiates one phone from another has more to do with how well your user interface works for what someone is interested in doing. And that has little to do with innovation.

What hung Blackberry is that what a lot of people are interested in doing with their phones is essentially trivial - games and the like - for which their platform was not well suited.

They've got to come out with a new phone, and it has to be a little different. Doing so preserves mind-share. But realistically innovation hasn't happened in a long time in smartphones, regardless of manufacturer. About the most innovative thing that's happened with smartphones in recent years is the virtual assistants, and at this stage they're still closer to a gimmick than something for serious day to day use (though that may change.)




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#10 2 years ago

Well, iPhones are essentially the Windows of the mobile market. It's simple, it's easy, and it's (perceptually) used by the most people. Those that want more specialisation go for Android. And the hipsters settle for the Windows phone.

Amusingly, innovation isn't driven by the manufacturers anymore. It's driven by the app developers. I think the ability to pay for my groceries by scanning a QR code with my bank app is absolutely fantastic.




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