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Shintsu

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#11 11 years ago

I'm going to nitpick a little, personally I've had the M-Audio Revolution 5.1 and it has excellent sound. You could get the Revo 7.1 if you needed it, but I've had great luck with it. M-Audio makes band equipment, so they specialize in audio stuff. I will agree though, Creative sucks so stay far away from their stuff. Also, go with XP. Vista would be such a mistake that would ruin your new PC.




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#12 11 years ago
Shintsu;3893916I'm going to nitpick a little, personally I've had the M-Audio Revolution 5.1 and it has excellent sound. You could get the Revo 7.1 if you needed it, but I've had great luck with it. M-Audio makes band equipment, so they specialize in audio stuff. I will agree though, Creative sucks so stay far away from their stuff. Also, go with XP. Vista would be such a mistake that would ruin your new PC.

My friends both run Vista as does one of their fathers who is the head of technology for our school. None of them have any issues with Vista. The only annoyance for me was how it constantly asked permission to do just about anything. And I figure many future games are going to be Vista only, or atleast optimized for Vista so it's probaly a good investment.

But your advice is still welcome, why do you feel Vista is so bad? Stability issues?




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#13 11 years ago

Well, it's quite picky on what it is compatible with and it is a huge resource hog. I've got an Apple G4 with a 466 MHz processor and it runs OSX faster than my current PC runs XP Pro. All the new PCs at the computer stores running Vista are very sluggish with 1 GB of ram and the new AMD and Core 2 Duos, the screensavers are very jerky and I tried to tell it to close a window and it locked up on me. Kinda funny though, I talked to a friend who said he knows the guy in charge of technology in the local school district and he said that he was very quick to tell him that he absolutely did not want Vista on any of his PCs even if he could get it for free. I believe he told me his words were "The guy that coded Vista is a complete moron!" I've heard many bad things about Vista and only a few good (Cosmetics). It sounds to me like a pretty version of XP. Save the cash and trouble and just use XP.




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#14 11 years ago

Afterburner;3892203Hmm if building is the way to go I'm cool with that, just might need some more guidance, atleast regarding the motherboard and processor. From there I should be able to make a good build.

Sorry for needing to ask so many questions but with the motherboard especially I'm really lost as I've never had to replace or upgrade mine. Any suggestions on what motherboard and processor combo to go with?[/QUOTE]Ask away. That's what the friendly, helpful tech forum is all about. No question is too stupid. No point in playing guessing games with your first build.

As for the motherboard/cpu combo, an Intel Core2Duo cpu (or even a quadcore intel) is the way to go at the moment for high performance (and overclocking potential). Then it's just a matter of picking a compatible motherboard with the features that suit your needs. [QUOTE=Afterburner;3893962]My friends both run Vista as does one of their fathers who is the head of technology for our school. None of them have any issues with Vista. The only annoyance for me was how it constantly asked permission to do just about anything.

I've played around with it a bit, and all of the annoying "big brother" type stuff can be easily disabled in a matter of minutes. Biggest issue I'm seeing with Vista is that many of the older XP/win2k apps/games don't work with it or need some serious tweaking to make work. Otherwise, I think I like it, and I may have to buy it for myself soon.




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#15 11 years ago
SteVen;3893638Here are some nice, budget gaming rig parts. If you don't know much about brands and such.
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For a Tower/Case I currently use a Enermax and its worked very well. Although, you can never go wrong with a Lian Li. Newegg.com - LIAN LI PC-60BPLUSII W Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail For Powersupply's, theres many nice brands. Rosewill, Thermaltake,CoolerMax, but I personally like the price/power ratio of Rosewill's. 550W should be plenty. Newegg.com - Rosewill RP550-2 550W,ATX12V v2.01 Power Supply 115/230V CSA, CB, TUV, FCC, UL - Retail For motherboards, the mainstream and good brands are ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte. I would have ran off to find an ASUS, but I found this Gigabyte that couldn't be passed up. Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail For gaming CPU's Core 2 Duo's have proved to surpass Athlon X2's almost everywhere. So they are the way to go. Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail Memory of course top brands are Corsair, Kingston, and G.Skill. I've chosen the G.Skill because the price is very nice. Newegg.com - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail For you Video Card DX10 and Nvidia pretty much go hand in hand. Not saying that ATI isn't worse, just that Nvidia has become mainstream for DX10. And EVGA 8800GTS has the perfect price/performance ratio. Newegg.com - EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail For a Harddrive, you can't go wrong with Western Digital, I'm sure 500GB will fill your needs. Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKB 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM Last but not least, a soundcard. Whats a great game without great sound? Personally, I've been using Creative products with no luck at all. They all have had problems for me. I've heard great things of Turtle Beach though. Newegg.com - Turtle Beach TBS-3300-01 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Montego DDL Sound Card - Retail
With a grand total of $1045 without tax or shipping. Vista Home Premium will probably add on another $200. About a hundred bucks or more cheaper than Cyberpower, but its your chose to build or buy pre-built.

Great line up, the only problems I can see are:

You should go with a SATA II Hard from Seagate. Here's one of the best HDD I've ever used, and that I know a lot of people use:

Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM You'd be running in ludicrous speed if you bought two and put them in RAID 0.

And for the case always go with ThermalTake, they are the coolest cases you can find.

The mobo, go with one that has nForce bridges, they work better with Nvidia cards, obviously.

Also, SteVen I got to hand it to you for picking one of the best processors I've seen in a long time, I've actually been looking into buying one of my own.




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#16 11 years ago
Afterburner;3893751Wow, thanks for the help. I'm not sure what I'm going to do exactly.

Don't worry, I didn't expect you too, just giving a base. Feel free to mix it up and post back.




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#17 11 years ago

EpicLoad;3894090You should go with a SATA II Hard from Seagate. Here's one of the best HDD I've ever used, and that I know a lot of people use:

Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

I have that exact HDD as my slave drive, and it's easily the fastest 7200rpm drive I've ever owned. It benchmarks as fast or faster (@ 66 mb/sec) than the old 36/74GB Raptors in avg. read speed, and isn't too far behind my 150GB Raptor that I use as my primary drive (78 mb/sec). (most "normal" 7200rpm drives bench at ~42-55 mb/sec) It's also one of the quietest drives I've ever used. I'll certainly be buying more Seagate drives in the future. FYI - Newegg is selling the 500gb version for ~$110.

btw - I would avoid Maxtor drives like the plague. Of the 3 HDDs in my life that have gone kaput, all have been Maxtors. Two died in the past month, one of which was maybe a year old. Perhaps I'm unlucky with them, but I'll never buy a Maxtor again. Western Digital though has never done me wrong.




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#18 11 years ago

lol, Western Digital drives have always been the worst for me! I used to buy their HDs to put in units I built for customers and a year or two later they'd be complaining about noise and then crashes and it was their cheap head unit. Western Digital can't make a HD for anything. Maxtor I have used quite a bit and never had a single one fail on me. Seagates have always been good too, just pricey in the past. I always remembered some of the best drives were the Fujitsu and Hitachis. I think I saw a 750 GB Fujitsu on sale at Compusa the other day for like $200 (or something like that).




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#19 11 years ago

^LOL That is funny. Luck of the draw I suppose.

Here's a "wish list" I threw together when I was bored a few weeks ago. It's a pretty beefy system for only $1434 (not including OS): Link: Pretty Good Gaming Rig list

Can you guys see/use that link above? I'll continue with the details... . . . Case: NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case [COLOR="Red"]$70[/COLOR]

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard [COLOR="Red"]$110[/COLOR]

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor [COLOR="Red"]$205[/COLOR]

Videocard: EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card [COLOR="Red"]$395[/COLOR]

Soundcard: Creative 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series [COLOR="Red"]$145[/COLOR]

Memory: OCZ 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory [COLOR="Red"]$236[/COLOR]

Power Supply OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply [COLOR="Red"]$140[/COLOR]

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive [COLOR="Red"]$110[/COLOR]

Optical Drive: Sony NEC Optiarc Black 18X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 18X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW SATA DVD Burner [COLOR="Red"]$33[/COLOR]

Add the OS of your choice ($90-270), and you're good to go. The case is a very personal decision, so call the NZXT a placeholder.




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#20 11 years ago
Oblivious;3894274^LOL That is funny. Luck of the draw I suppose. Stay tuned for my build list... Here's a "wish list" I threw together when I was bored a few weeks ago. It's a pretty beefy system for only $1365, including an OS: Link: Pretty Good Gaming Rig list Can you guys see/use that link above? I'll continue with the details...

I can see it, its very nice. I like how you went the extra mile with the 4GB and 640MB GTS and still stayed under $1500 =p. For some reason Creative cards just hate my PC...All ones I've used give me huge annoying static and crackling no matter what I do. I first thought it was because my Audigy 2 was so old and out-dated so I went out and bought that same Fatal1ty card...but the problem still continues :(