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Mr. Pedantic

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#11 10 years ago
Is it recommended to overclock the Phenom II without liquid cooling? The case I have linked has 4 120mm fans and 2 140mm fans, and the processor has one itself. Is that enough to overclock without overheating?

You want something like this:

Newegg.com - Noctua NH-U12P 120mm SSO CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks Newegg.com - ZALMAN CNPS9900LED 120mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks Newegg.com - Tuniq Tower 120 Universal CPU Cooler 120mm Cooling Fan and Fan Controller/Heatsink - CPU Fans & Heatsinks Newegg.com - Vigor Monsoon III LT Dual 120mm Fan CPU Cooler Socket 1366 Ready - CPU Fans & Heatsinks Newegg.com - Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Heatsink - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

I think AMD uses something like this:

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This doesn't cool the CPU very much, and it means that as you go up in clock speed (and therefore thermal envelope) the cooler can't get rid of all that heat fast enough. So the temperatures on the CPU go up, and if you push it too far, bad things happen. The heatsinks I linked to are designed to prevent that from happening. As far as I'm concerned, they're all pretty good heatsinks, and they will get rid of that heat far more effectively than the stock AMD heatsink. I use the Thermalright Ultra 120, and I think it's awesome, but other people on these forums will go with different heatsinks, and they're pretty good too.




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#12 10 years ago

kow_ciller;4927233here is a power supply. Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies

That ram looks good. Heres a solid motherboard. Newegg.com - ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

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Corsair makes very good PSU's, and ASUS make very good motherboards, so these are great choices. I would just go for whatever kow says to be honest.

Everything else looks very solid. If I were you I would probably go for the 4870X2 though, its 10$ cheaper than the GTX you suggested, and I think it performs all around better (correct me if wrong). It's also perfect for your motherboard since it has no other PCI-E X16 slot so crossfire or SLI is not an option.

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards




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#13 10 years ago

Motherboard - I've never owned one, but I've heard that some people really hate Asus motherboards, though I have no proof. This Gigabyte mobo looks pretty sweet though: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

CPU - looks like a great CPU, but you really should get a good CPU cooler, thermal paste, and possibly a backplate for the cooler. For the cooler, Ximatek makes some nice, cheap, high-performance coolers. For thermal paste, I've had good experience with arctic silver 5, but others have had better experience with OCZ Freeze. A biggy is to research how to use thermal paste though, because it can have a huge temperature impact(not from brand to brand, but from using it right or not, or at all).

PSU: I don't know the quality of the brand you picked, but I'm biased towards Corsair and PC Power and Cooling, simply because they make excellent power supplies.

RAM: I'd say go with Corsair or G.skill. I haven't had any horrible experiences with the PNY chip I've got, but it's about 4 years old and I can't say anything about how it overclocks.

Video card: Wait for the next series to come out, or go for the 4870x2, or the EVGA GTX285 if you are set on a 285.

Hard drive: Can't say much, except Seagate and WD are bigger manufacturers, and may have better warranties(I believe Seagate's warranty has been recently downgraded to 3 years, but WD has some HDD's with 5 year warranties).




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#14 10 years ago

The 4870x2 is better than the 285, but I also play WoW, and it doesn't support multiple cards. Isn't the 4870x2 technically 2 cards in one?




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#15 10 years ago

You can just disable crossfire. The 4870 on its own is able to max out WoW with all maximum setting anyway, so you're not suffering or anything.




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#16 10 years ago
TheClairvoyant;4927750The 4870x2 is better than the 285, but I also play WoW, and it doesn't support multiple cards. Isn't the 4870x2 technically 2 cards in one?

It's two GPUs in one card, like the 295. But, the 4870X2 is more expensive. The cheapest one I've seen was $379.99 from XFX, but they're not exactly the best GPU dealer, but really the only difference from the 4870X2 over the 285 is 10Fps max, so as far as bang for buck goes (and I really loathe that statement when it comes to computer parts), it'd be better to get the 285.


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#17 10 years ago
It's two GPUs in one card, like the 295. But, the 4870X2 is more expensive. The cheapest one I've seen was $379.99 from XFX, but they're not exactly the best GPU dealer, but really the only difference from the 4870X2 over the 285 is 10Fps max, so as far as bang for buck goes (and I really loathe that statement when it comes to computer parts), it'd be better to get the 285.

It's much better value for money to get the HD 4850X2. It solidly competes with the GTX285 across the board, beating it in most games at most resolutions, and is about $20 cheaper to boot. If you buy 2 4850s instead of the 4850X2 and crossfire them, you can get it for about $220 now.




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#18 10 years ago
Mr. Pedantic;4928210and is about $20 cheaper to boot.

It's actually $20 more, which isn't really much anyway.


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#19 10 years ago
computernerd;4928205It's two GPUs in one card, like the 295. But, the 4870X2 is more expensive. The cheapest one I've seen was $379.99 from XFX, but they're not exactly the best GPU dealer, but really the only difference from the 4870X2 over the 285 is 10Fps max, so as far as bang for buck goes (and I really loathe that statement when it comes to computer parts), it'd be better to get the 285.

That post kind of confused me. You said the 4870x2 is better, but the 285 is better performance for the money. But if it's only $20 more, isn't the boost in performance worth it?




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#20 10 years ago

Not just performance: good support and good drivers are a bonus too.


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