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Mastershroom VIP Member

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#1 6 years ago

Hey everyone...long story short, I'm going to be building a new desktop pretty much from the ground up. The only things I'm keeping from my current setup are peripherals (display, mouse, keyboard, headset and maybe an optical drive). I don't want to spend more than $1,000 on this. I want it to be able to run BF3 smoothly at 1680x1050, preferably at Ultra settings, but I'm willing to compromise. I also plan on getting Skyrim and MW3 this year, but those aren't quite as demanding.

tl;dr - I need a case, PSU, motherboard, CPU, cooler, memory, graphics card, and hard drive. Best I can get for $1,000 or less.




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#2 6 years ago

This is my current setup, which is more than enough to run BF3 at ultra and should cost a bit less than $1000:

Core i5 2500k with aftermarket cooler MSI Z68A-G43 (G3) motherboard 4gb RAM BeQuiet Straight Power E9 500W PSU ATI 6970 with aftermarket cooler Adata SSD 120gb old Seagate sata 500gb drive for storage Creative X-Fi Titanium HD soundcard

I bought the graphics card 6 months ago and mostly because I got a good deal for it, maybe a Nvidia card is bettter. It probably wouldn't be bad to invest a bit more in the motherboard, the MSI is a good compromise between low budget and quality, but the software that comes with it is not so great. You also don't necessarily need an expensive soundcard, especially if your headset isn't very good.

If you want to keep old optical drives or HDDs be aware that most motherboards nowadays only have SATA connectors.




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#3 6 years ago

Thanks Fancypants. I was looking into an AMD Phenom II over Intel, as they seem to be cheaper for what you get out of them, and I have no complaints about my 965 Black Edition. I also have no need for an SSD at this point; I'd rather just get a single 1TB 7,200 RPM drive. I can also do without a sound card.

Also forgot to mention, the setup I have now is going to go to my girlfriend, so that's why I can't really salvage anything major from it. But I do have a spare GTS 250 1GB graphics card that I would like to use as a dedicated PhysX card, so I assume that limits me to certain motherboard options and nVidia graphics.

Does this seem like a decent power supply? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182188 It's on a pretty good sale at Newegg, with a promo code I got via email, it's an additional $20 off to make it $59.99 total.




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#4 6 years ago

If you want to save some money you can buy an AMD CPU, they are slower and less efficient though. Here is a benchmark.

Using that older Nvidia card as dedicated physx card may decrease performance a little bit as your other GPU would only use 8 instead of 16 lanes. 8 lanes are probably enough for most cards though. And most motherboards have two PCI-E x16 slots, so I guess that won't be a problem.

I never heard about Roleswill, 1000W seems like overkill though. Even with that dedicated PhysX card you probably don't need more than 700W. Here is a thread with some info on how to find a good PSU.

A SSD, even a cheap one with low capacity and the older Sata2 standard, is one of the best ways to spend your money. There aren't many other options that give you more performance/money spent, although the performance gain would be in loading times rather than FPS.




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#5 6 years ago

You really can't upgrade very far from a 965... The most you'll improve is 0.3 GHz. Don't fall into the x6 trap.




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#6 6 years ago

#1 stay the hell away from that PSU

#2 dont touch AMD for cpu's

#3 keep an eye out for newegg open box video cards




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#7 6 years ago

CPU i5-2500k CPU Cooler Sunbeam Twister 120 MB MSI P67A-G43 RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM Case CM690 II Advanced PSU CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 HDD SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB

Total $654 after two MIRs

Leaves $346 for a 6970 2GB or the upcoming 560 Ti 448 core, which will use the same chip the 570 and 580 do. The 560 Ti 448 Core will likely be lower in price than the 6970 though I'm guessing, with a speculated 1280MB VRAM. I'm torn between these two cards because while the 6970 with 2GB VRAM is an excellent value and performer, I still have a bad taste in my mouth from having endured 7 long years of driver frustration on my prior two ATI cards. I don't see any signs of it betting better either.

The CPU needs no explanation, simply the best in it's price class right now for gaming.

The CPU cooler is one of the best in it's price class, supports 1155, and has an added expansion plate speed knob or MB PWM option. It's no Silver Arrow, but then a 2500k doesn't need one. This certainly isn't the quietest on High, but in PMW you probably would hardly notice it on a 2500k. Might never go above Med depending on your OC.

The MB is one of the best values in 1155 right now, and supports Crossfire, SLI, and USB3 and SATA III.

G Skill has some of the best RAM for the money, and this is slightly lower latency without a price premium.

The CM690 II Advanced has decent cooling stock, filtration, and supports WC, and is very well priced. The Corsair 400R is a good option too, but not as good a value when you add the fans needed to equal thermal performance. The 400R has a much better MB tray IMO, but though it's side mount HDD bay is convenient, impedes more air flow.

The PSU is well reviewed, and though more powerful than needed for one GPU, would handle a 2nd for upgrade options.

The HDD is one of the fastest 1TB drives on the market, and priced well. No wonder they're out of stock at the moment. Another option however is the new highly acclaimed Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 2TB drive, with 64MB cache. It's been tested at 158Mb/s max and 150MB/s ave write speed. Problem is it's getting harder to find them at a good price now that word is out. Newegg had them for $100 on an email subscriber promo recently, and I'm still kicking myself for not getting a couple to RAID them.




D3matt

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#8 6 years ago

kow_ciller;5580171#1 stay the hell away from that PSU

#2 dont touch AMD for cpu's

#3 keep an eye out for newegg open box video cards

#1 What's wrong with the PSU? It's not a no-name, it's 80+, and it's a best seller. And it's modular! #2 There's nothing wrong with AMD CPUs. A high-end AMD will run BF3 just fine for less than that 2500K. #3 Open box anything is a no-no in my book. Never know if some lunatic OCed it to death and sent it back.

G Skill is definitely the way to go for RAM, though. Cheap, lifetime warranty, low latency and high speed. And a cool-looking heat spreader, whatever that's worth :P




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#9 6 years ago

D3matt;5580195#1 What's wrong with the PSU? It's not a no-name, it's 80+, and it's a best seller. And it's modular! #2 There's nothing wrong with AMD CPUs. A high-end AMD will run BF3 just fine for less than that 2500K. #3 Open box anything is a no-no in my book. Never know if some lunatic OCed it to death and sent it back.

G Skill is definitely the way to go for RAM, though. Cheap, lifetime warranty, low latency and high speed. And a cool-looking heat spreader, whatever that's worth :P

1. As far as I can see, as long as reviews are good, decent brand (using a Rosewill networking card), and it's on a HUGE sale this month at newegg. 2. AMD vs. Intel is a matter of preference, get what you need. 3. agreed, open-box sensitive components is a horrible idea O.o


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#10 6 years ago

1. Rule of thumb: Stick to Corsair unless you have the time and cash in case shit hits the fan. 2. Nothing wrong with AMD, but as someone stated they aren't as powerful, and they're less efficient, however do their job as a budget processor. 3. I'd only open-box RAM and things like that, I'd never open box a motherboard, processor or video card.

Anyways, most people have pretty much thrown out their recommendations, and I agree with the i5-2500k, it was a solid CPU for the month I had it (nothing about the CPU made me return it, it was just a problem with the chipset it used).

However, for RAM I'd just go ahead and get 8GB. It's so cheap now.