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EpicLoad

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#21 12 years ago

Umm, how about I didn't say buying 2gigs, I just said buy a one gig stick. Oh, holy shit, that's wait, not even 25 bucks more, how about I give the guy 25 bucks for the extra. And BTW 1.5 gigs on a regular system is quite benieficial, and the processor won't hold back in taking advantage of those 1.5 gigs of RAM. And for the 400 to 600 MB, that's pretty normal in a PREBUILT computer, in my computer I only run about 275MB. But for the eMachines that I use as a networking HD downstairs, the typical stuff that the company installs takes up that much. Maybe you should take your head out of your ass and pay attention to the fact that not everybody knows as much about computers, and doesn't know what they can shut off or what has to stay, and a lot of times, all of the stuff that gets installed can just keep building up. Oh and note, optimal is actually around 250MB to 300MB, and how many people do you now that can drop it that low. And yes, you are trying to be a dick.




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#22 12 years ago
EpicLoad;4028432Umm, how about I didn't say buying 2gigs, I just said buy a one gig stick. Oh, holy shit, that's wait, not even 25 bucks more, how about I give the guy 25 bucks for the extra. And BTW 1.5 gigs on a regular system is quite benieficial, and the processor won't hold back in taking advantage of those 1.5 gigs of RAM. And for the 400 to 600 MB, that's pretty normal in a PREBUILT computer, in my computer I only run about 275MB. But for the eMachines that I use as a networking HD downstairs, the typical stuff that the company installs takes up that much. Maybe you should take your head out of your ass and pay attention to the fact that not everybody knows as much about computers, and doesn't know what they can shut off or what has to stay, and a lot of times, all of the stuff that gets installed can just keep building up. Oh and note, optimal is actually around 250MB to 300MB, and how many people do you now that can drop it that low. And yes, you are trying to be a dick.

Hey dude, calm down man, just trying to help the guy. K? And yes i'm aware that people don't disable things, but even at that, 400 to 600 is a quite a bit. Don't want to argue, and now that I have made my suggestion i'm out of this discussion. Sorry if I came off as being rude.




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#23 12 years ago

1 GB good enough on XP, don't think so, not anymore anyway. Even with FSAutostart to shut down background progs and non essential services, force idle task, and defrag the RAM, I was close to maxing out my total RAM running the Crysis demo at only 1024x768, all settings low except for Medium textures, and 2xAA. That's with a P4 3.0GHz CPU and X800XT. It's always good to have a bit of overhead with RAM, all the better if you can go dual channel, so 2 GB is the sweetspot for XP, 4GB for Vista and future readiness. If you're on 32 bit Vista then get two 1GB modules and add two more when you upgrade it to 64 bit. That way you stay with dual channel, you can afford it as you go, and you don't jump on the Vista 64 bit train until it's ready to leave the station.




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#24 12 years ago
Oh, holy shit, that's wait, not even 25 bucks more, how about I give the guy 25 bucks for the extra.

I could use $25.

My old P4 system could handle XP fine w/ 1GB. All my Source games ran fine, Quake 3, et cetera. No, it isn't enough for the new gaming market, but that requires high-end graphic cards anyways. Why go the twenty miles if the road never ends?




EpicLoad

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#25 12 years ago

>Omen<;40290051 GB good enough on XP, don't think so, not anymore anyway. Even with FSAutostart to shut down background progs and non essential services, force idle task, and defrag the RAM, I was close to maxing out my total RAM running the Crysis demo at only 1024x768, all settings low except for Medium textures, and 2xAA. That's with a P4 3.0GHz CPU and X800XT.[/quote]

I'm surprised that you could even get it to work. I put all the textures on medium and 4xAA with 1440x900, it still lagged, and I'm on a E6600 with an OC 7900GS.

[quote=Adamus;4029306]I could use $25.

My old P4 system could handle XP fine w/ 1GB. All my Source games ran fine, Quake 3, et cetera. No, it isn't enough for the new gaming market, but that requires high-end graphic cards anyways. Why go the twenty miles if the road never ends?

If I get what you're saying, why upgrade if it just keeps going? I think after the start of 08, stuff might calm down for a little while, but i'm just guessing, Omen, thoughts?




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#26 11 years ago

Okay...none of this is really making much sense to me! You may all be techno-whizzes, but I'm sure not :P All I need is some more, inexpensive RAM that will speed up simple Terragen 2 renders from taking 3 minutes just to make flat terrain and an atmosphere. It would also be nice to get a performance boost in gaming--in Oblivion it can sometimes take 5 minutes to load with 1024x1024 and 2048x2048 texture resolutions, and I would just like to knock that down a bit. I have pretty low expectations. I already have what I think is a pretty nice graphics card for me (nVidia GeForce 7600 GS, if I didn't say that already) anyway. Of course, before that I had a 5500, which was on the opposite end of the performance scale! Basically, my point is that I don't need a "super overhaul to the rescue" type thing--something that brings a game from 20 FPS to 80. I play Oblivion at 20 FPS outdoors, and I am perfectly content with that. I don't even WANT a performance boost from that--I would consider that an expensive luxury. I have pretty low expectations, and I'm certainly not the type of person that builds their own computer so that it's made "just for them" or something. Grr. When I was asking around about a new video card, they said my RAM would be holding me back from making the best of it. Now people are saying that my processor will be holding me back from the RAM that I am about to buy to get the best out of my video card?? What holds the processor back, now?? :S A good processor is apparently in the $100-$600 range, which is ridiculous for me. I'm not getting a new processor in quite a while, if ever.




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#27 11 years ago

Growl. Apparently I've thrown too much at you people :P Anyone still here that has any further advice for me?




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#28 11 years ago
EpicLoad;4029486I'm surprised that you could even get it to work. I put all the textures on medium and 4xAA with 1440x900, it still lagged, and I'm on a E6600 with an OC 7900GS. If I get what you're saying, why upgrade if it just keeps going? I think after the start of 08, stuff might calm down for a little while, but i'm just guessing, Omen, thoughts?

Epic, you need to learn more about how Crysis AA works. On the one hand it doesn't bog your system as much IF it can handle High shader settings (I'll explain later) due to not applying AA to foliage like Far Cry does. On the other hand using AA at all will force shaders to High unless your system cannot handle it, in which case only the HUD will be smoother as on my previous setup before my recent upgrade. Read more about Crysis AA here: [COLOR=blue]http://www.tweakguides.com/Crysis_6.html[/COLOR] As for thoughts about keeping a system running as long as you can, the comment about the RAM made is true. As Adamus said some games play fine on XP with only 1GB, heck I did it myself for nearly 3 yrs. Current games as he also said, require more though, but I disagree that you need latest gen video cards to go with. I've looked at a lot of upgrade chat and I still can't think of a better testimonial than my own on the recent upgrade I did as far as juicing more life out of a system. I spent a little over $2000 on my tower alone 3 yrs ago based on a P4 3.0GHz, X800XT, and 1 GB RAM. Recently I added another 1 GB of the same OCZ Platinum dual channel kit RAM and a refurbed Sapphire X1950Pro 512MB AGP. So for about $183 total, well under 10% of my total tower cost, I got much better performance in Crysis and I can now play games that require shader 3. Even if I only use these parts until the end of '08 they will have been well worth the price and it's looking like it could easily take that long to get the 9800GTX I want on my next build. The specific results in Crysis are I went from High textures, Medium sound, everything else Low, at 1600x1200 with 30 FPS average to High textures, Medium shaders, shadows, water, and sound, everything else Low, 8x AF (via System.cfg command), at 1200x900 with 35 FPS average. The difference when shaders shadows and water is set to Medium is astounding. By comparison the previous even at High res looked much worse. You basically get a more lifelike look, especially with shaders. When you get up to around 1200x900 on a 21" display (20" viewable) there is no need for AA anyway. Having 35 FPS average vs 30 is worth it IMO. I was getting 30 FPS average with the new setup setting volumetrics at Medium, but I was dipping well under 20 FPS at times which made it harder to aim during intense battles. At first I thought I would hold off buying Crysis until I could build the new rig I want, not wanting to tire of the game by the time that day comes only to have wasted the experience with lack luster graphics. I can honestly say now though that it looks and plays good enough with this upgrade to buy the game. If you'd like I can post screenshots of the before/after so you can get an idea of how much better even a low cost upgrade can make the game look.