Ok so ya hopefully my mom will let me buy this stuff tell me what you guys think about this rig.... CoolerMaster Centurion5 Case Thermaltake 420W PSU MSI K8N Neo4 nForce 4 Mobo AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice Core 80 GB SATA HDD Corsair ValueSelect PC3200 RAM HIS ATI X800XL PCIe (If it comes back in stock) DVD-ROM(dont want a DVD-RW yet) Floppy XP Keyboard Mouse Monitor-i dont want to spend too much so no LCD :( well waht you guys think? Final price around $1250 With tax and SH...please give me suggestions on how to make it lower....
30th January 2004
Heres an idea: Instead of buying speakers, mouse, keyboard, moniter, and the floppy drive, why not salvage them off your're old computer? Could shave off about $194 off the tag and you'll have money to spend on a bigger hard drive and better ram. Heres a mobo, I think could be better than the one you mentioned: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135177
because the computer i use right now isnt mine, its the family computer :uhm:, and plus i wouldnt want the monitor off this one because its only a 15inch CRT and that motherboard has a good price but i dont know about that brand, and i will need more PCI slots because the video card i want takes up 1 and i will need one for a soundcard i plan on buying in the future and a network card, so im not so sure about that one...
21st February 2005
WarDog21Ok so ya hopefully my mom will let me buy this stuff tell me what you guys think about this rig.... CoolerMaster Centurion5 Case Thermaltake 420W PSU MSI K8N Neo4 nForce 4 Mobo AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice Core 80 GB SATA HDD Corsair ValueSelect PC3200 RAM HIS ATI X800XL PCIe (If it comes back in stock) DVD-ROM(dont want a DVD-RW yet) Floppy XP Keyboard Mouse Monitor-i dont want to spend too much so no LCD :( well waht you guys think? Final price around $1250 With tax and SH...please give me suggestions on how to make it lower....
I would upgrade to Corsair XMS ram insted of vaule. Also mabey if you can go up to a 3500+ for the extra FPS. Ohh for a monitor.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116331 That would be better.. And a better video card... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102509 A better PS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103459 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817171001
I hate ECS. Their motherboards survive pretty long in a toss, but they're cheap for a reason... I also hate Thermaltake, and wouldn't trust that PSU as far as I could throw it. Although I've got one helluva solider in an Enlight of similar specs, I wouldn't try to run a modern CPU and graphics card on a mere 18A of +12V juice. I've also heard sketchy things about HIS, but can't confirm them. I know that they had serious quality problems (manifested in burnt-out Molexes) with their 9800 Pros. Otherwise you're looking pretty good for a budget build, though you might find 80GB to be a little too small in relatively short order. TBH, what you listed will probably work together, despite my misgivings. Just don't stress the PSU at all.
Lord of the Peach
19th April 2004
Get a +3000 venice instend and save $50 to get a better PSU, like the OCZ modstream 450watt and better ram, more Hd space. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104154 Get the monitor at your local best buy and save a good bit since you don't have to have it shipped. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7039554&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat56900050018&id=1099395911288 $140 with tax if you buy at store. Then get an MX510 from newegg, you will like it alot more over that generic one.
OK one thing i dont get about 12V Rails or whatever lets say theres a 12V1 reading and a 12V2 reading such as this PSU and the both are 18A will you combine them and it will be like a 36A 12V rail? im confusing myself geez...anyways this PSU good? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103440 33A on the 12V, but im not sure if it has a 24 pin connector...
I'm leery of Enermax: they seem to be hit-and-miss based on some of what I've heard filter through the grapevine. Fortron Source is some pretty good stuff; I'd buy that PSU on name alone. +12V1 and +12V2 are part of the newer ATX specification for power supplies (I think the split rail was added in revision 2.0 for +12V circuits providing more than a set number of amps, can't remember if it was 18A or higher). Regardless, on a dual-rail PSU, +12V1 feeds the CPU and +12V2 feeds everything else. I've heard (but not confirmed) that +12V1 also supplies the 75W available via the PCIe x16 slots. There are a couple instances where you need to be leery about dual rails, but your system doesn't meet those criteria. I don't think either PSU has a 24-pin connector on it, however.
so having the dual 12V rails wont really change anything but i will still have enough amps on the 12V to say power a 7800GTX? well just screw all other power supplys im just probly going to spend $20 bucks more then i wanted to on a good PSU with a reliable name, this dont think anyone can say something bad about that one :naughty:
15A @ +12V1, 17A @ +12V2? That's pretty weak... That's 180W on the first rail, 204W on the other. As long as you don't move to a dual core/dual CPU platform, you should be OK there with only 180W on +12V1. 204W should also be OK for a single 7800GTX; two of them, if you ever elect to follow that path, could likely be too much. And be careful of overclocking. Other than that, you should be OK there.