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amoreelitesoldier

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#1 10 years ago

Hey everyone, I've been a member here for a long time but haven't posted very much in the last couple of years. During this time I have not kept up with the latest and greatest in computer technology. GF has always been very helpful so I would like to ask all of you to explain the realistic difference between the PC components I'm about to list. Thank you, I appreciate your time. Build #1: PSU: Antec TPQ-850 850 watt Mobo: DFI LanParty UT P35 T2R CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 (PC2-6400) GPU: BFG GeForce GTX285 HDD1: WD 74GB Raptor (already have) HDD2: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200.8 SATA (already have) Sound Card: I'm not sure which I want, currently have an SB Audigy 2. Build #2: PSU: Antec TPQ-850 850 watt Mobo: EVGA 132-BL-E758-TR LGA1366 X58 ATX form factor RAM: OCZ Platinum 6GB (3x2GB) 240-pin DDR3-1600 (PC3 12800) GPU: BFG GeForce GTX285 HDD1: same as above HDD2: same as above Current build: ABIT AX8 Athlon 64 3700+ ATI X850XT Platinum Edition WD 74GB Raptor SG 250GB 7200.8 (x2) Memorex dual-layer/whatever DVD burners Antec TruPower 2.0 550 watt PSU SB Audigy 2ZS 2x512MB Corsair XMS Pro PC3200 (original) 2x1GB Corsair cheapo PC3200 (added later) ------ How much of a difference between the two new builds would I actually notice in day-to-day computing and also with gaming. I mostly play FPS games like the COD series and whatnot. 1280x1024 and 1920x1080 resolutions. I don't need all of the eye candy, but it's sometimes nice. Help me out here! :cool: I built my current PC back in 2005 so I feel an upgrade is in order. I am going to run M$WXP as long as possible, maybe to Windows 7 when it drops in stores... Thanks again for the help, GF.




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#2 10 years ago

You failed to mention which CPU you are referring to in Build #2. Assuming you are talking about the Core i7 920, at stock clocks you will not see a significant difference in gaming; however, this can vary depending upon if the game is multithreaded. Synthetic bechmarks will reveal that the Core i7 has a lot more power under its hood so to speak, especially in memory bandwidth and arithmetic. Media encoding, compression utilities etc. will likely run faster. The motherboard you have chosen for the C2Q is a little on the low end for such a CPU. Many LGA 775 motherboards can support much faster RAM than what you have chosen as well (up to DDR2 1200 - some even support DDR3). Many of Seagate's newer HDD's (7200.11 320GB, 7200.12 500GB) are faster than the Raptor you have now and relatively inexpensive.




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#3 10 years ago

I'd hazzard a guess that you'll be going for the 920 in the second build. If you're going for the 940 I'll shoot you, because the two are identical, but if you want to pay twice the price I won't stop you.

I'd go for the second build, personally. It's a little more expensive, but if you have the money for it why not? You'll have to get a decent cooler though; it's a sin to not OC that chip. You'll have it at about 4.0GHz no problem.

As soundcards go, I've got an X-Fi XtremeGamer, though I know many here heartily dislike Creative (not without reason either). Razor have a sound card I've been hearing good things about. The Sonar, I believe?

Nice build!




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#4 10 years ago

The Sonar is an asus card.

And that first build looks like a reason to buy an i7. Drop that CPU down to a q9550 or Q9400 to save a nice chunk of cash, then get an Asus P5Q-pro or P5Q-E since it will actually use those extra PCI-E slots and wont be 16x- 4x. The P45 chipset also overclocks much better for Quads and will clock abit higher than the P35 chipset. That PSU is a waste also, the only really good antec power supplies are the Signature series, everything else is so-so. If you want an awesome PSU for the money head over to buy.com and find the Corsair TX750. $80 after mail-in cant be beat for a power supply of that quality.

For the video card I wouldn't buy a $370 gtx285 but instead get two 4870s for $135 each. They will outperform the 285 in every game that will take advantage of crossfire (pretty much everything thats recent)

But really, if you game and dont do any video editing or anything like that I would seriously consider just getting a Core2 based quad since they're pretty much the same clock-for-clock compared to i7 when gaming only.




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#5 10 years ago

Oops, I meant to add the 920 CPU in there... I have been in the game long enough to not drop the big $$ on CPUs like the 940. ;) I will be playing games, but not as a primary function. I am basically trying to build a regular non-gaming PC with the ability to play games once in a while. When I do play games, though, I want to be able to play them on high quality (hence the gtx295). I will take a look at the CrossFire and SLI setups. I'm looking to build the cheapest and fastest music, video, etc. box I can. Cheap and fast don't go together, but I'm just wondering if I'll tap the potential of the i7 core. I don't want to drop $1,200-$1,500 and end up being disappointed with speed. I guess it can't be worse than my 3700! :p Thanks!




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#6 10 years ago

You won't be disappointed with the i7. Going from a single-core Athlon64 to the 8 cores of the i7 is honestly bliss.




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#7 10 years ago

Also, I currently have a Thermaltake Tsunami mid-tower. These new GPUs look HUGE so I don't know if size is going to be a problem...




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#8 10 years ago

I would go Core i7 and X58 if you can afford it. I also recommend the Razer Barracuda AC1 sound card. Thumbs up for W7 too, and despite some implying it would be a much longer wait than year's end to see it hit the market (you know who you are), it's looking more and more like it might release in time for the holiday season.




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#9 10 years ago
Mr. Pedantic;4846489You won't be disappointed with the i7. Going from a single-core Athlon64 to the 8 cores of the i7 is honestly bliss.

Technically it's only got 4 actual cores, but it does have 8 logical-core hyperthreading.




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#10 10 years ago
Zamamee;4847171Technically it's only got 4 actual cores, but it does have 8 logical-core hyperthreading.

I think they've earned the right to be called octo core capable considering their previous HyperThreading virtual cores could not process an entire thread of data, nor can any other processor at this point match double the thread capacity through virtual cores.




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