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carl4286

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#1 12 years ago

Well, I'm seeing way too many people on these forums getting all over peoples backs for wanting to own a Dell. You all seem horrified at the idea of someone playing a game on a Dell. One if the widely reccommended alternatives to a Dell, Cyberpower, has their high end system as reviewed by cnet.com priced at just over $3,100. This system scored a full point lower (scale of 1-10) than its Dell XPS competitor, and has a slower processor, slower RAM, one video card that is slower than just one of the two video cards in the Dell XPS system thats priced at just over $3,400. While Dell's and Alienwares generally (in the higher-end PC's) tend to be in the same boat, in that they are horribly overpriced but can kick some serious ass in the gaming department, you're opinions of them are radically different. Most people seem to feel that if your rich and you like games (and don't want to build yourself), then buy yourself an Alienware. If your rich and you like games, you might as well throw away your $5000 and buy a gameboy before you buy a Dell XPS. On cnet.com, the Alienware ALX SLI (alienware's top of the line, watercooled system) recieved only 1/10th of a point higher review than its comperable Dell XPS equivalent, yet it costs over $2,200 more with a small fraction of the bundled accessories, not to mention Dell's warranty which blows any other PC manufacturer out of the water (with the exception, maybe, of Apple). In conclusion, building systems yourself is the best way to go. However, if you don't want to build yourself, you're just as well off (if not better) buying a Dell XPS than you are buying an Alienware, or even a Cyberpower. Thoughts? Support? Criticism?




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#2 12 years ago

I'd like to see Dell for once use High end gaming ram like Corsair XMS instead of cheap value ram that they charge the same price as high end ram does. I'd like to see Dell for once use AMD processors instead of Intel. I'd like to see Dell XPS not be slower than slow compared to PC's you can build your self for half the price they charge.

I have use the Dell XPS every day. My school bought some since they go through Dell for my graphic class. Specs are Intel 3.6ghz P4 HT, 2GB of Dell ram, 6800GT AGP, Soundblaster Audigy 2, Dell cdrom, Dell Floppy, 350watt PSU, and some BTX mothbored made by Dell. Not joking when I say Dell because we opened them up and they were made by Dell.

The thing LAGS like no tommrow. Its slow. Stupid things came with Dell flastscreen 17inch and there the WORSE flatscreen I ever seen. The graphics on them suck and same with the color. It hurts the eyes to look at them for a long time, nothing near a CRT. I loaded Enemy Territory on the thing and I was ghosting. Then the stupid CD-Rom drive works off and on. We replaced them 4 times and all of them never worked right. We load Photoshop CS 2 and Pain Shop Pro 9 and it just lags the system bad. We had to go in an turn off HT to make it not lag so bad. Thing still lags. Then Dell put all of its crap on it and we still can't unstall most of it. PSU is to low for the GPU. We had to go back to Dell to pick a 450watt for the things because it wasn't enough power for the 6800GT. Then the XPS case is mostly plastic and very flim.

Total cost for one of them cost my school $2.800 and it was a waist of money.

Then on the cheap Dells you can build one for $500 that can kick a $1,500 Dell pc.

Look at Tom hardware guide on how to build a $500 gaming rig http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20051014/

You can build a $1,000 computer that can really kick a $1,000 Dell really bad. I know that for sure because I did that. Back in July I built a 2nd computer for my mom to use and as a back up one. Specs: AMD S939 3200+ Venice 1GB Corsair XMS 120Gb Maxtor Sata2 HD Gigabyte 6600GT Pci-Express MSI Nforce 4 Neo Motherbored Soundblaster Audigy 2 450watt PSU 17inch Monitor

Came out to $950. Can't tell me Dell that cost $1,000 is a good deal. No Dell for $1,000 can't even come close to the PC I built in speed.




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#3 12 years ago

I agree, dells are not as bad as people say they are, i have almost 3 year old dell dimension 8300 thats still going strong and can play just about any game on high settings with a upgraded graphics card (X800XT for me). I've heard people saying about how poor the quality is about the parts they use, all this time i've never had one part go out on me, and everybody i know who has a dell has never had anything like that happen to them. They give long warranties, and are good computer for someone who dont want to, or can't build one themselves.

Only complaints i have with dell is that they use some propreitary parts (like most pre-builts do) like the PSU and motherboard which they change the mounting holes on. and that the cases generally do not have very good cooling for high end parts.

Another thing i've heard is how you can't upgrade dells, thats not true, only thing in a dell that you can't upgrade is the motherboard itself. You can upgrade the CPU to a point (my dimension 8300 can go up to a 3.2Ghz P4), You can upgrade the video cards (i put a X800XT in mine) and you can upgrade your ram all you want with off the shelf ram sticks. Only thing to watch when you start upgrading them is how hot stuffs getting, and how much power your using. My dell (specs in sig) is running off one of dells underrated 250W Power supplies which actaully can put out 345W.

From my experiance with dell, they aren't that bad. I wouldn't buy another one due to the fact that they are somewhat overpriced, but if you don't want to build your own (like me over 2 years ago) they are pretty good.




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Yah k, but there service sucks. Me: Hi I was wondering if I can upgrade my Dell with a single 512 RAM with a 256 RAM. Employee: Yes you can Me: Ok Then I would like to buy a 51---- Employee: Wait I lied no you cant Me: ok, what can I do Employee: I dont know stop calling. *hangs up* I made this call, this is as accurate as I can get.




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#5 12 years ago

Heh,

Not to get anything started, but all Dells are a waste of money. You could buy the parts yourself and build your computer to your own specs. That way, you don't have to worry about the other 3000 megs of other shit that dell loads on your computer. I bought a dell and it crashed in 3 months. Finally talked them into giving me 700 bucks back, (70% of the total cost) and I bought and built my own.

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#6 12 years ago

My very first PC was a Dell Dimension 2350 I got about 3 years ago. It was a fine PC, but overpriced. I was able to upgrade to a FX5500 video card, 1GB RAM, and added a sound card. This Dell would play all of my favorite games with no problem. As a matter of a fact, I recently built my own rig and the only part I saved from my Dell was the Pentium 4 2.20 CPU.

I would have to say that if you do not want to build your own, then you can get a cheaper Dell (Dimension 2400) for around $400.00 and upgrade it.




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#7 12 years ago
general rammelYah k, but there service sucks. Me: Hi I was wondering if I can upgrade my Dell with a single 512 RAM with a 256 RAM. Employee: Yes you can Me: Ok Then I would like to buy a 51---- Employee: Wait I lied no you cant Me: ok, what can I do Employee: I dont know stop calling. *hangs up* I made this call, this is as accurate as I can get.

Heh my friend David had the same problem when he try to ask Dell about what type of ram he could have. First they said SD 133 then they said no DDR 233, then they said SD 100 and finaly it came out to be SD 100. Yeah SD ram. He bought his computer back in 2002. Yeah SD he got so pissed off. He paid $1,200 for his Dell and they gave him 1 PCI slot, a 4MB on bored Video card, Intel Celeron P3 based 1.10ghz, 256mb SD ram. 5400 RPM 40GB HD, and a CD-Rom drive 24x. He got pissed off because at the time for the same price he could of built 1 with a 64MB AGP video card, 4 PCI slots,Intel P4 2.4ghz. 1GB of ram, 80GB 7200rpm HD, and a 48X CDRW.




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#8 12 years ago

First off, you can't base your experience with Dell PC's on a Dell that your school owns. How well do you think the students take care of those things? It's not their computer, why do they care at all what they do to it? Second, they don't use the crappy value RAM that other companies use. For DDR2, they use Samsung RAM. Samsung was one of the companies involved in the development of DDR2 RAM. About the support, its better than what you get if you build your own PC. If you wan't to upgrade your RAM, who can you rely on for answers but yourself? If it overheats, you replace it. If it suddenly stops working, you replace it instead of Dell sending you a completely new system inside a week at no charge to you (even after shipping, which is prepaid). My friend once had a Dell 2400 die on him, and after talking with a Dell rep for about a half-hour, they decided to upgrade him to a 4600 for free when they replaced his system. If you're hard drive in your self-built PC dies on you, do you think they're going to RMA it with a hard drive twice the size? No. They don't even give you a new one... its refurbished.




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#9 12 years ago
=Vanquish= I bought a dell and it crashed in 3 months.

do you mean a part in the computer went bad, or that windows crashed? If you mean windows crashed, don't blame dell, blame micro$oft.

One thing i don't understand, why do so many people think that if you want to upgrade your dell, you have to go out and buy dell parts?




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#10 12 years ago
carl4286First off, you can't base your experience with Dell PC's on a Dell that your school owns. How well do you think the students take care of those things? It's not their computer, why do they care at all what they do to it? Second, they don't use the crappy value RAM that other companies use. For DDR2, they use Samsung RAM. Samsung was one of the companies involved in the development of DDR2 RAM.

Were the only class that use them. Yes DDR2 Samsung Value ram. Its not the nice stuff from Corsair XMS, Kingston HyperX, and OCZ. Be nice for Dell to use the nice stuff and if there gonna call it there gaming comps then use gaming ram.




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