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Caelum

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#1 9 years ago

Right. Now, there comes a time in every man's life when he has to ask himself one of the greatest questions in life... Should I use Chrome or Opera?

...Yarly. Basically, been using Chrome for a while now & loving most of it. Then I decided to have a peek at how Opera is these days for the first time in ages, and had my mind blown. Then, just after I customised myself a quick Opera layout, out of nowhere, it strikes me. Damn. A browser I like.

So uhhh, anyways, Opera vs Chrome, thoughts?

Also, if anyone has any actually up-to-date speed comparisons (Opera 10.60, Chrome 5.0), would be appreciated too :p

Cheers folks




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#2 9 years ago

Been using Iron for a while as my default browser, which is Chrome without Google built in so it's safer, just as fast, and accepts the same addons. Tonight I started trying Firefox 4 beta, and it's pretty fast I'm finding too. Haven't tried Opera for a while, and when I did it had issues with some forum software. I'm doubting Opera's latest version is any faster than Iron or FF 4, but I may give it another go. Right now I have no reason to though.

One thing I don't get is why you don't hear about more people using Iron. Is it REALLY that necessary or even a good idea to have the most powerful search engine in the world built right into your address bar? I don't think it is. It's scary enough just being careful what you type into Google, let alone what you type into your default browser's address bar. Laziness is quite often a prelude to problems, sometimes ones that are hard to get rid of.




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#3 9 years ago

Iron is an unadvertised hidden gem, that is more unique than beautiful. So no surpise it hasn't garnered a following. Mozilla/Firefox was developed by Netscape, and pushed by AOL, which is why it is so big.

Me, I use Internet Explorer 8.




Caelum

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#4 9 years ago

EDIT: Monster, you are officially a ninja.

Yeah, the latest Opera is okay though, both speed and compatibility wise.

As for Iron, been meaning to get my hands on it, except I ran into Opera XD Though, the address bar part can be avoided with the right settings (along with various other big brother Google things. But admittedly not all of 'em).




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#5 9 years ago
Caelum;5360223...the address bar part can be avoided with the right settings (along with various other big brother Google things. But admittedly not all of 'em).

Except then you kinda lose the point of using Chrome in the first place.

As for Opera, I take the compatibility claims with a grain of salt until I verify them for myself. Sorry, it's not so much that I'm cynical, it's that everyone has their various forums they surf, and some can be problematic. One thing I find odd is that for some time CCleaner has supported Opera, yet Iron, despite being based on one of the most popular browsers, needs to be hacked into CCleaner, and even then it will only clean, but not retain cookies you set it to save. Yet CCLeaner had Opera support back when I last tried it and was having problems with it. So, there are small reasons I'd like to try it, but at the same time I'm skeptical.




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#6 9 years ago

To me none of the browsers stand out in any way. Opera is faster than the rest, especially with lots of tabs open, but its memory management is horrible, and for its dearth of good features, it has a lot that I don't want or need (and which suck horribly), slowing down performance, and which still do not make up for a lack of add-on support a la Firefox.

Firefox is slightly slower, but add-ons are invaluable for the things that I need to do that aren't quite every-day things, but which still need to be done. Firefox is awesome with memory.

Chrome is also slightly slower than Opera, and it also has add-ons, but its UI is, in my opinion, quite inconsistent, especially with add-ons installed. Some of them integrate really well, and others are just crappy. Furthermore, Chrome is a memory hog and slows down a lot with a lot of tabs open. With one or two tabs, however, it's something to be reckoned with.

I use Opera 10.60 for day-to-day activities now (thumbnail tabs are a real gift) and Firefox for all the things that can't be done without a Firefox addon.




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#7 9 years ago
Mr. Pedantic;5360235Furthermore, Chrome is a memory hog...

I just did a little test comparing Iron to FF 4, and I found Iron was using 30% less memory than FF 4 (64MB vs 83MB).

I really think more people ought to try Iron, pretty good browser.




Mr. Pedantic

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#8 9 years ago

I just did a little test comparing Iron to FF 4, and I found Iron was using 30% less memory than FF 4 (64MB vs 83MB).

I really think more people ought to try Iron, pretty good browser.

How about with 15+ tabs open? I just did a little test of my own with 17 identical tabs open in either browser, albeit rather unscientifically (I had both open at the same time, no clearing of cache or history, etc), and Chrome was at 554MB vs Firefox's at 236MB.




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#9 9 years ago
Except then you kinda lose the point of using Chrome in the first place.

How so? They're not actually major settings you have to disable for it (mostly silly stuff like wrong url suggestions). Though I admit changing browser settings to not have big brother watching your every keystroke is silly, but hey, it's the internet. It's not like big brother isn't already watching (just two examples there).

As for Opera, I take the compatibility claims with a grain of salt until I verify them for myself. Sorry, it's not so much that I'm cynical, it's that everyone has their various forums they surf, and some can be problematic.

Yeah. What I'm saying is basically Opera should work fine with the latest versions of pretty much all prominent forum softwares (myBB, SMF, IPB, vB, phpBB, etc). Older versions might still be the same though.

Firefox is slightly slower, but add-ons are invaluable for the things that I need to do that aren't quite every-day things, but which still need to be done. Firefox is awesome with memory.

Firefox is the devil. ...Okay, IE is the devil, not Firefox, but still. I need a ton of Firefox addons to get the stuff I use on a regular basis (firebug, google page speed, adblock, etc), on a slower browser. I think I'd rather have Chrome/Opera + adblock myself XD

Chrome is also slightly slower than Opera, and it also has add-ons, but its UI is, in my opinion, quite inconsistent, especially with add-ons installed. Some of them integrate really well, and others are just crappy

I've only got an adblock add-on installed for Chrome myself, so wouldn't know about that

Also, yeah, I usually use a ton of tabs at the same time (like, 6 or so for casual browsing & up to 15+ when actually doing stuff)




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#10 9 years ago

@Mr. P, LOL, how many people really NEED 15+ tabs open at once? Sheer madness and/or plain laziness in closing ones you're leaving open needlessly if you ask me. :rolleyes: And besides, I was comparing IRON to FF 4, not Chrome. Chrome has more running in the background so it probably uses more mem, but I'm not willing to needlessly take risks using a devil may care browser based on convenience vs security just to prove that. There are two devils, IE & Chrome.

@Cael, I mean the main difference between Chrome and Iron is no Google, so if you don't want that just get on with it and try Iron already, it's good.