Hi. I am building a gaming/all-purpose rig (I know im posting alot of forums about this but its my first build) and I hope to be ordering the parts on Friday. My only issue is wheter or not to get 64-bit vista. I am getting 2GB of RAM but may upgrade to 4 in the future. Will 32-bit ever support 4GB? Also, does 64-bit have more compatability problems with software, games, etc? I also want to be sure everything's compatable (I've already checked just being extra careful). Comments on the build design are great too. Case: Antec 900 ATX CPU: Q6600 (i will probably oc it sometime to around 3GHz) Cooling: Zalman CNPS9500 (with LED) PSU: PC Power and Cooling Quad Silencer 750W Mobo: ASUS P5Kn32-E SLI Vid. Card: PNY XLR8 8800GTX Memory: 2GB Crucial Ballisitx DDR2 800Mhz Hard Drive 1: Raptor 10000RPM 150GB Hard Drive 2: Seagate 250GB 7200RPM DVD: Two 20x DVDRW w/Lightscribe OS: Vista Home Premium (32 or 64 bit?) I really appreciate all the help I've gotten from the members of this site. They have greatly improved my knowledge and have helped make this build possible :)
I would go for the 32 bit version of Vista as 64 bit may take a few more years to really catch on; as such, the driver support still pretty much sucks.
The build list looks good. My only suggestion would be to get 4gb of ram (regardless of only being able to see/use ~3.2gb w/ 32bit) since Vista is a real resource hog and uses up nearly a gig of ram on it's own.
One more nitpick is that I didn't see a sound card in your list. With a high end rig like that, it cries out for good sound as well. Seems pretty common though that I'll see folks spend $1200 on video alone (2x GTX) and completely neglect the sound. Maybe that's just me, but I never understand that. :confused:
i heard the onboard sound on this mobo was pretty good. As far as vista goes I am leaning towards 32-bit but is 4GB of RAM (3.2 in 32-bit or whatever) really necessary? Will there be any significant performance increase or will it be like 3-6 fps? Cause thats not worth the extra $$$.
MoHFiles Vice-Site Manager
13th December 2006
I would stick with 2GB RAM. I don't think 4BG is really necessary with 32-bit and I doubt it would boost your FPS.
Cheeseking25;3998506i heard the onboard sound on this mobo was pretty good. As far as vista goes I am leaning towards 32-bit but is 4GB of RAM (3.2 in 32-bit or whatever) really necessary? Will there be any significant performance increase or will it be like 3-6 fps? Cause thats not worth the extra $$$.
It's not so much a FPS thing (unless you're seriously ram deficient) as it is a speed thing. Games load faster, multi-tasking works better, etc. Remember, if you only have 2gb and Vista uses 700-800mb of it, then all you really have for gaming is just over a GB, and that's not good these days for a true gaming rig. Think of it like this: do you want to wait 90 seconds for a BF2 map to load or 30 seconds? So yes, as you asked, it would be a significant performance increase in those areas. Besides, ram is dirt cheap these days. You don't really need the expensive high-end ram unless you plan on doing some extreme overclocking with it. The cheaper stuff works just dandy. (in fact, the cheap ram in my daughter's rig overclocks better than the high end ram in mine... go figure) Obviously it's up to you, but the general consensus I've heard from many in the know is that in terms of minimum amounts of ram for a gaming rig, 2GB is ideal for XP, 4GB is ideal for Vista.
Just like your board choice, my Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe has good onboard sound as well, but my sound card (X-Fi) completely destroys it for sound quality/clarity. On-board sound can't compare to a decent sound card unless you're running it on really crappy speakers. It also takes a small load off your cpu, though with a quad-core, that's likely a non-issue. Getting a sound card can be addressed later though if you feel the need. Again, just a nitpick. ;)
Release the warrior spirit
19th June 2005
[color=red]Why dont ya stay away from vista and try Windows XPx64? because driver support and games etc is good in XPx64, i've had no problems with it, so if ya plan to use 4Gb of ram use xpx64, and wait till Vista's SP1 is out, then jump the boat, i my self plan to get another 4Gb of ram soon, total of 8GB :P XPx64 FtW! x-M-x[/color]
i understand your concern about the sound card issue but it does cost extra. how much would a good sound card cost? as far as vista goes, im definitely looking to get it now because i dont see how i could stand buying xp now, waiting a few months, and spending another 150+ dollars on an upgrade for a service pack that will just be a combination of previously released updates. As far as RAM goes, if i do get 4GB, i would use the ~3.2GB availiable to me in 32-bit. I like 32-bit because it seems to have alot less problems. ill look into the sound card but im sticking with the os i get for awhile. I cant justify buying one os now and changing it within such a short period of time.
"World's Best Boss"
14th August 2004
Cheeseking25;3999710i understand your concern about the sound card issue but it does cost extra. how much would a good sound card cost?
Personally my Mobo's integrated sound sounds just as good as the $75 Sound Blaster Audigy 2 I bought 2 years ago. If your looking for a good sound card of course your going to need a good speaker setup or headphones to go with it to actually hear what your paying for, it can get pricey. I had bought a $150 Sound Blaster Fatal1ty and the sound was very impressive...while it lasted. After about a week it started to static like all hell, so I can't really reccomend Sound Blaster cards..I hear M-Audio cards are the ones to get now-a-days. But its all about personal preference mostly, when you get the mobo just check out the integrated sound and if it sounds alright to you just stick with it and then theres no need to spend money on a sound card...
A good sound card will run you anywhere between $75-$150, depending on what you choose; Soundblaster Audigy2 or X-Fi , Auzentech, etc. Hooked up to some decent speakers ($50-$250) or headphones, I think it's a worthwhile purchase, but not a high priority. You may find you're satisfied with the sound quality of your on-board sound, so it's nothing to fret over. Buy one next year if you have some money to burn. I would absolutely max out the ram though.
btw - Have fun with that new rig, it's gonna rock. :smokin:
 Steven's right about the possible issues though. I'm trying to bite my tongue about my own X-Fi mishaps since they are the exception and not the rule. Thankfully my recent videocard change fixed my static issues (can't explain why, but that's all I can attribute it to). I've been thinking about getting an Auzentech and giving the X-Fi to my daughter.
thanks for all the help. as far as RAM goes ill consider the 4GB with 32-bit vista. Hopefully ill be ordering the parts tomorrow. For now ill probably stick with onboard sound but i will consider getting a sound card in the future.