Help on what to put in a monster pc 9 replies

Please wait...

Guest

I didn't make it!

0 XP

 
#1 13 years ago

Hi, i'm new here, and i was wondering if some of you could help me decide what to put in a new pc i'm going to build. So far, it will have: 2-4gb of ram (DDR2 PC4200), Radeon x850 xt pe, Athlon 64/ Athlon FX, 300-400gb sata hard drive, 21/22" iiyama CRT monitor, The part i'm stuck on is that i can't find a socket 939 motherboard that will support DDR2 ram. Do any of you know of any such motherboards? Also, i was planning on getting 2 73gb 10k rpm SATA150 Raptor drives, and putting them in a raid array, but then i started thinking about scsi. Would a raid array raptor configuration be faster than a scsi drive? What would the price difference be and what else would i need to use a scsi drive as i've never used scsi before but i'm sure that you need cards to plug the drives into or something. :confused: Thanks for your help Peter




Pethegreat VIP Member

Lord of the Peach

70 XP

19th April 2004

0 Uploads

20,892 Posts

0 Threads

#2 13 years ago

DDR 2 won't work in AMD processor motherboards, and there are none. DDR2 is also very slow, due to bad timings I would say: AMD FX55 processor 1.5gb of DDR600 ram 2x 74gb rapotors in raid Either 1 X850Xt or 2 6800gt's in SLI




carl4286

Revenge was here.

50 XP

14th December 2004

0 Uploads

1,605 Posts

0 Threads

#3 13 years ago

There are no socket 939 motherboards that support DDR2 RAM at the moment. Get 2x74GB Western Digital 10k RPM hard drives, they just can't be beat. For now, 2GB of RAM is plenty. If you can afford it, get 2 GeForce 6800 Ultra's with an SLI motherboard instead of an X850 XT PE. And finally, get an FX-55 if you can afford it. I believe a scsi interface is something like 12mb/s faster than a SATA150 connection, but for reasons that I can no longer remember, I highly reccommend you get the drives I mentioned above with a SATA150 interface. Also, if you have experience building a comptuer, get a Danger Den water cooling system. They are absolutly incredible. They will customize you a water cooling system based on your specific parts, they're extremely quiet, and they cool extremely well. www.dangerden.com Get the parts from www.newegg.com. Thats all the advice I have for now.




*The.Doctor

Trust me, I'm a Doctor

102,440 XP

25th November 2003

0 Uploads

9,964 Posts

0 Threads

#4 13 years ago

your not going to find any DDR2 AMD boards, but DDR2 is crap compared to DDR Ram anyways, intel even said it was a bad architecture. it just can't keep up with DDR until you start getting to the higher frequency stuff. just get 1GB to 2GB DDR400 or maybe DDR500 if you want to do some overclocking. and since you have top-of-the-line componets, you might as well get a AMD Athlon 64 FX55.




Guest

I didn't make it!

0 XP

 
#5 13 years ago

Thanks for all your replies, although now i have more questions :uhm: Do any of you know a good place i can get DDR500/600 ram off the internet for UK delivery? I have built quite a few pc's before as i worked in a computer shop, but i have no experience with watercooling. I want to use watercooling to cool my chipset, GPU, and CPU, but the custom kits on dangerden are really confusing, as i don't know which tube size to choose, which reservoir, pump etc. Are Asetek Waterchill cooling kits good (and good for the price??). Also, i know that to use SLI, you must have a motherboard that supports it, but do you have to have SLI enabled graphics cards, or will just 2 standard PCI express Geforce 6800 GT/Ultra's do it? Also, can i use Radeon x850's with SLI? I read a while ago of problems in some games with SLI, is this still apparent? If it is, i'll probably just stick with a single Radeon X850 XT or XT PE. Can you recommend a motherboard to me? I've read a couple of reviews, and am looking more closely towards the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Edition and Abit Fatal1ty AN8. I am going to be needing a board that will allow me to overclock a hell of a lot (and as safely as possible), and it will have to have SATA raid on it. I will be using 2 Raptors in raid, another SATA hard drive, and then a DVDRW, and maybe CDRW. Can any of you give any other recommendations? Also, is there a huge difference between the Athlon FX and Athlon 64, because to pay around double the price is a lot if the performance difference isn't much. What benefits will have an Athlon FX give me apart from being able to tell people i have an Athlon FX? :p Thanks again Peter




Pethegreat VIP Member

Lord of the Peach

70 XP

19th April 2004

0 Uploads

20,892 Posts

0 Threads

#6 13 years ago

ATI does not have an SLI set up now. you would need 2 identical 6800gt/ultra's that are SLI enabled.




*The.Doctor

Trust me, I'm a Doctor

102,440 XP

25th November 2003

0 Uploads

9,964 Posts

0 Threads

#7 13 years ago
poboyle666Also, is there a huge difference between the Athlon FX and Athlon 64, because to pay around double the price is a lot if the performance difference isn't much. What benefits will have an Athlon FX give me apart from being able to tell people i have an Athlon FX? :p Thanks again

well, that all depends of what Athlon 64 your talking about. The Athlon 64 FX55 is currently AMD's fastest single processer. it would be a 4300+ to 4400+ in the Athlon 64 ratings, were the highest non-FX athlon 64 is the 4000+ Sledgehammer. but if you want to save some money, get a 4000+ and overclock it to at least 2.6Ghz (FX55 Speed).




Guest

I didn't make it!

0 XP

 
#8 13 years ago

Watercooling eh? Well I have Koolance watercooled system and I'm happy with it. Its pretty fool-proof. It does a nice job of quieting things up AND keeps me pretty cool. If you have the cash, there are "better" watercooling setups out there who will get lower temps... but they aren't as easy to install or as reliable, not to mention that they will cost a LOT. My system uses the built-in case unit and costed me $300 including waterblocks for video, cpu, and motherboard. Still not cheap, but concitering what cutting edge is, its not toooo bad.




C38368

...burning angel wings to dust

50 XP

14th February 2004

0 Uploads

5,013 Posts

0 Threads

#9 13 years ago
FX-FraggerWatercooling eh? Well I have Koolance watercooled system and I'm happy with it. Its pretty fool-proof. It does a nice job of quieting things up AND keeps me pretty cool. If you have the cash, there are "better" watercooling setups out there who will get lower temps... but they aren't as easy to install or as reliable, not to mention that they will cost a LOT. My system uses the built-in case unit and costed me $300 including waterblocks for video, cpu, and motherboard. Still not cheap, but concitering what cutting edge is, its not toooo bad.

Wrong on the first point (all loops have the same points of failure, and building from scratch is no more unreliable than a preassembled kit. Think about it for a second). I just whipped up a quick "kit" from DD, cooling for CPU/GPU/NB using 1/2" ID tubing. Components include Laing DDC pump, a 1x120mm rad, a 120mm fan, TDX and Maze4 blocks, 7' of Clearflex, and some AS5. Total cost: $300.06 (and it'll whoop up on the Koolance, as you pointed out). Sure, that doesn't include the case, but let's be honest: you've got an extra case laying around right now, don't you? Anyway... @Reman~ The FX-55 would be a 4200+. And it's not the CPU to buy anymore. The new 90nm San Diego cores have supplanted the old Sledge/Claw/Hammer cores as AMD's best performers (just not out of the box, obviously). @poboyle666~ Building on what I just said, the FX processors are Athlon64s, but they get special treatment (slightly higher clocks, in the 55's case, and unlocked multis all around). Restating what I just said: go with a San Diego; they're cheaper and are doing better than the FX-55 with a little persuasion. And check your PMs in about an hour.




*The.Doctor

Trust me, I'm a Doctor

102,440 XP

25th November 2003

0 Uploads

9,964 Posts

0 Threads

#10 13 years ago
C38368@Reman~ The FX-55 would be a 4200+. And it's not the CPU to buy anymore. The new 90nm San Diego cores have supplanted the old Sledge/Claw/Hammer cores as AMD's best performers (just not out of the box, obviously)..

oh it's a 4200+, i wasn't far off though. are the san diego cores avialable in anything but the 3700+? thats all i've seen them in. have far do they have to be clocked to overtake a FX55 (I haven't looked at anything about them and i'm in school right now so i really can't) do they need to be 2.6Ghz or does the new core give more for less?