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#1 10 years ago

What is the DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2008) to be exact? I ask because I heard that there are multiple downloads on the microsoft website that allow you to upgrade to the latest version(s) of DirectX. Also what are the minimum software and hardware requirements for DirectX 10 and where can I find the download/installer file(s) if I meet these requirements? Thanks for any help that can be offered and links would be highly appreciated!




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#2 10 years ago
Siddharth GuptaAlso what are the minimum software and hardware requirements for DirectX 10

Windows Vista and a DX10-capable video card.




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#3 10 years ago

WHY IS FUDGE ALWAYS MADE BY THESE FUDGIN' COMPUTER COMPANIES? I thought Windows XP and a 256 MB graphics card would be enough. I might get a better GPU but I sort of get the feeling that it's not really a good idea to get Vista. Not really a tech but I heard that every new windows OS has a bunch of holes in it (apparently that's why they have to make like a bazillion patches every month) and it pretty much takes like... uh... how long does it take for an OS to become seemingly reliable? Anyhow, I haven't actually seen it become that popular especially because everywhere I go Windows XP is the OS. The only time I saw a vista laptop was at my friends house and that was only because his father worked for some company. Of course, this was also like a year or so before now.




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#4 10 years ago

Sid, I know MS makes some bad moves but honestly, you'd have to have been living under a rock for nearly a year to think XP and any old 256 MB graphics card is all it takes to run DX10. Vista is not nearly as bad as it was at launch, they crammed at end of '07 and came out with numerous hotfixes. You still may get a few frames per second less on some games with it vs XP, but it's much more stable and reliable now, some say more so than XP. What you could do if you have a copy of XP now is do an upgrade on Vista and use it in dual boot with XP until W7 comes out, which may be a while now that the US gov has mandated a 2 yr push back on it. The jury is still out on whether the gov will get away with that ruling though. I really don't know how this ruling will affect other countries if at all though.




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#5 10 years ago

Well, actually I've been living in my science textbooks (not computer science. It's not even one of my subjects). Nor do I have the time to look up info on software or hardware components. Therefore, I really don't know about the many technical aspects of computers. I bought this computer like last august or september thinking it would be pretty good but apparently it's already becoming obsolete. I guess that's how it is. New next-gen consoles and computers with 'supercomputer' capabilities are made on a daily basis nowadays. I bought this computer for about $1300 (I think that's about how much 8000 Hong Kong Dollars converted to) and as far as I can say it's specs are: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13 GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2046 MB RAM DirectX version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) GPU: 256 MB ATI Radeon X1300PRO (DAC type: Internal DAC(400 MHz)) This was taken from the dxdiag page. I don't know what other info I can give about my computer or how much more specific I can be but could you tell me the things that you think or you know that I should upgrade by one year later or so and by how much if it's something statistical.




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#6 10 years ago

It looks like a good system except for your GPU. A X1300 isn't going to cut it for much gaming, if you want to upgrade look at the Radeon HD 4850's. You can get the 4850's for $200 US, i don't know how much that would be were you are at, but i'm sure you can do the conversion. ;)

I bought this computer like last august or september thinking it would be pretty good but apparently it's already becoming obsolete. I guess that's how it is

Welcome to the PC world! I know it can suck, but thats just the way the PC world works, every few months new parts are always coming out that make the current stuff outdated.

Don't upgrade just because of that though. I always say, only upgrade whenever your PC no longer does what you want it to at the speed you want.




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#7 10 years ago

I concur with Apollo Sid, if you're meaning what to upgrade for gaming the 1300 GPU is the weak link. Though it's not as easy to upgrade as you might think, esp on a name brand PC. Name brand PCs often don't have very powerful PSUs (power supply) and it can be hard to even find out what wattage/amperage they have. More powerful GPUs require a certain amount of amperage on the 12V rail of the PSU. Your upgrade route if you do so will depend on how much money you have and whether you need to swap the PSU as well to get adequate power to the new GPU. The card Apollo suggested is very good, but runs very hot. However in reviews I've read of it many suspect it may be due to the factory GPU fan settings, which can usually be fixed easily. I use a freeware tool called ATI Tool that works quite well to adjust the GPU fan speed thresholds. My X1950Pro was set horribly at the factory and changing the settings made it run a lot cooler. Even if you manage to keep whatever GPU you ugrade to cool though, unless it's a dual slot design that vents out the back of the case it will likely raise the ambient temp of your case quite a bit unless you add a case fan or two if possible. Many brand name cases are small and poorly ventilated.




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#8 10 years ago

Quite frankly an X1300 is incapable of running modern games at high settings as it is, so why you're even worried about not having DX10 (which in some games enables more demanding features) is beyond me...




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#9 10 years ago

I don't know really why would it be so incapable. I played Assassin's Creed on Moderate settings and it worked just fine. On high settings it was slightly laggy but not really noticable. I consider Assassin's Creed a modern game. As for DX10, I want it because I am not allowed to buy any consoles and therefore have to rely on emulators and rented games. The recent Playstation 2 emulator graphics plugin shows that DX10 is recommended. Therefore, I want it. Also @ Omen, What your saying is that if I buy a PC completely built straight from the factory, it will have always have a sucky GPU or something?




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#10 10 years ago
Siddharth GuptaAs for DX10, I want it because I am not allowed to buy any consoles and therefore have to rely on emulators and rented games. The recent Playstation 2 emulator graphics plugin shows that DX10 is recommended. Therefore, I want it.

Like i said before, the only way to get DX10 is to be using Windows Vista with a DX10-capable GPU, which your X1300 is not. A X1300 is not going to handle any new games at high resolutions and high settings, or with any kind of a AA/AF, DX10 would just slow it down even more. Also, talking about emulators is not allowed here. I just thought i would tell you that before you end up in trouble. ;)

Also @ Omen, What your saying is that if I buy a PC completely built straight from the factory, it will have always have a sucky GPU or something?

While that may be true, a lot of prebuilts do have sucky GPU's unless you get one of the gaming versions, what he is saying is that the PSU most prebuilts ship with are probably not going to be capable of powering the new power hungry video cards.




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