It is time for a monitor upgrade. I'm looking for something nice and fancy, to really spoil myself. :] I'm interested in buying a wide screen LCD. But I find that there is relatively little information on monitors, c-net has a couple of good reviews, but they all "could be better". I do a lot of photography, so my priority would be colors and contrast, over response time, with gaming as my second priority. I don't plan to watch movies on the computer, aside from the occasional video on the internet. The specifics of what I'm looking for are: 22" Wide Screen LCD (do they even make wide screen CRTs?) Matte screen finish
These are pretty much the necessary aspects, of it, anything else I'm rather flexible on, and I'd actually prefer that it doesn't include extras like microphone, webcam, speakers or usb ports. Also, it would be great if it had a height adjustable stand, as I do use that a lot on my current monitor. I need some help finding something within a 300$ budget, which is also rather flexible within 20$.
Metall_pingwin;4613499I do a lot of photography, so my priority would be colors and contrast, over response time, with gaming as my second priority. I don't plan to watch movies on the computer, aside from the occasional video on the internet. The specifics of what I'm looking for are: 22" Wide Screen LCD (do they even make wide screen CRTs?)
You won't get an LCD in that size or price range that's good at even movies, and especially not photo work. The 6 bit TN construction on them will limit the color accuracy considerably as they have to pixel blend to synthesize many of the colors.
You can actually get a widescreen CRT in the FW900 made by Sony and sometimes seen under the HP name. However since they haven't been made for a while you can only get them used or refurbished on Ebay. A while back when the LCD craze was just getting big you could still find them within warranty used on Ebay with 2 yrs left on the warranty for $225. It's a 24" with 22.5 viewable Trinitron and has an optimal res of 1920x1200 @ 98Hz, though of course is much more flexible in res and refresh than an LCD.
I was considering one of them myself but ended up getting a 26" CRT HDTV as a secondary display after the 21" 4:3 CRT Viewsonic G22fb monitor I bought. I should mention though that I do not play games on my TV as it does not place the HUD of games well without part of it being offscreen. It's either due to it being a CRT TV or the lousy dual display support ATI has for their older video cards (X1950Pro). I suspect it's the latter, I'll most likely go back to Nvidia next time.
Truth be told, they don't make em like this anymore. It was hugely popular when they came out and I suspect many that bought them are still very happy with them. [COLOR=Blue]FW900 on Ebay[/COLOR]
If you want a widescreen LCD with right colors from the start, adjustable in height and with minimalist stuff, I'd say get the Samsung SyncMaster 305T. Well, except for the price, that is way over the $300 :lookaround: ... but it's a 30 inches with 2560x1600 native resolution :naughty: (now you can do some serious photography work :p )
LOL, I think it's safe to say many would buy expense things if they could afford them, but unfortunately that's not the case here.
Well, I can't have everything. But I sure as hell want my big fancy widescreen monitor. :p Right now I have a dual monitor setup with a 17" ViewSonic VP171b, and some crappy Gateway monitor. The ViewSonic is my main monitor, and it is absolutely fantastic. It has great colors, high contrast and is just in general a fantastic thing to work on.
I was thinking that it might be a good idea to leave the ViewSonic monitor, and use it in a dual monitor setup with the wide screen, simply using that as my main graphics editing monitor.
Yeah, a good Viewsonic CRT is a nice monitor to have. Mine's a graphics series, that's what the "G" stands for. It will do 85Hz refresh at 1600x1200. The FW900 will do a whopping 98Hz even at 1920x1200 though with a dot pitch of only .25, the same pitch the 30" 2500x1650 displays have. And it has a Trinitron wire mesh aperture grille for great contrast and brightness too, vs the cheap holes punched in a sheet of metal invar shadow mask most CRTs use. Another thing to note about Sony monitors and TVs, they're the only ones that use caucasian skin tones as neutral vs grey. That's why skin tones are so accurate on Sonys, very important for photo work.
Lenovo ThinkVision L220x. I have it for 3 months now and it's pure awesomeness. 22", 1920x1200, S-IPS, 6 ms, 178°/178°. Besides movies and games, I also do graphics work, and honestly, i see no difference from my previous crt monitor (which was a very good one) in terms of picture quality. Actually, it seems to me that this monitor has better picture than the previous one. And, it's AFAIK the only 22" monitor with HD resolution and S-IPS panel, as all other 22"'s are TN. This is a big advantage, because TN monitors can only do 160/160 viewing angle and color reproduction is just horrible (we have such monitors at school and picking the right color in corel draw is a real pain with them). Especially for photography work, TN is out of question. Even though 6ms response time might seem alot, I haven't noticed any ghosting or any other common LCD problems.
However, this monitor might be too expensive for your budget at the moment (i don't know how much does it cost where you live), but if you want to do some serious work, i suggest you save some money and buy this one. You won't regret it.
I'm way cooler than n0e (who isn't though?)
27th May 2004
I don't know if they're in your price range... but here is my recommendation:
ASUS vw221 21.6" LCD Monitor This ones a beauty, we've been discussing it at TRF for a while now. $179.99
I knew there was a 22" 1920x1200 by Lenovo, but I thought it was priced higher. Provantage has it for $355, and their shipping is very reasonable. [COLOR=Blue]Lenovo L220x @ Provantage[/COLOR]
It is NOT however an S-IPS panel, it's an S-PVA. It would be better than a TN 6 bit panel for photo work, but not nearly as good as an S-IPS LCD or the FW900. I'm pretty sure there still is no such thing as a 22" S-IPS panel mointor, there are however 24" S-IPS ones made by Hazro in the UK, and they're about the only ones even making a 24" last I checked. S-IPS panels have two transistors per pixel. It would be very hard if not impossible to make one in 22" size with a full 1920x1200 res, at least with current technology and if it were possible, it would likely be too expensive to do for what consumers would want to pay.
(I had to upload a photo of Prad's specs on it because for some reason the direct link to the L220x specs wouldn't work.)
Since you can simply return it without an extra cost when you purchase a monitor at Bestbuy, I bought an HP w2207h monitor, to try it out, return it, and buy one cheaper on the web if I like it. (Best buy sells it for 350$ with tax, which is too expensive for me) So far it seems very nice, I was mostly worried about the shiny display finish as opposed to matte, but it doesn't seem to be a problem. On the plus side, it has a height adjustable stand.
I may be sticking with it. I was however wondering about an oddity I noticed when playing games. This was especially visible when playing World In Conflict, when stationary, everything was fine, however when things moved, I saw something strange happen, straight lines would seem to go through a "crosshatch" of some sort, it's really difficult to explain, sort of like grain? I'm wondering if this is due to an analog connection which i'm using now, since I don't own an HDMI cable yet, or if it's something this monitor will always do. ( I also haven't installed the drivers)