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BlitZ, The 57th

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#1 8 years ago

My older computer is getting messed up in all directions. I would get BSODs about 90% of the time when I enter the desktop. Out of that 10%, 9% of the time my monitor would flicker black and then back to the desktop. After flickering it falls into BSOD again. I'm getting all sorts of crashes in BSOD. From memory to pfn list corrupt, to just closed down because something weird happened to nothing at all. My resolution is stuck at the lowest that 640x something, and its stuck in 4 bit color. I have no option to choose or revert back to normal. I can't boot into safe mode, it always gets stuck in the mup.sys line. So I'm asking, is it safe for me to plug in an external hard drive and save my folders and files before my computer's inside rot to hell. EDIT: Also, half the time I enter the desktop. An error would talk about some corrupted file and what not, asking me to do a chkdsk. I did, restarted the comp but it says the volume cannot be opened for direct access and ends there. Is there a way for me to prolong the life of the computer without crashing long enough to evacuate my files?




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#2 8 years ago

I would try using an external drive with a Linux distro live CD or something similar, so you can at least get your files the hell out of there without needing to get into Windows itself.




BlitZ, The 57th

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#3 8 years ago

A what? Linux distro live CD? I don't think I know computers that well. Whats that? Do you get it with the external drive or must you get it seperately?




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#4 8 years ago
Is there a way for me to prolong the life of the computer without crashing long enough to evacuate my files?

If you get the computer to boot for long enough, upload somewhere, or attach to your next reply, the minidump files. Located...C:\Windows\minidump

If you do that I can easily diagnose the dump files and tell you exactly what is causing it to BSOD, if its hardware, a driver, or conflicting software.

If you can get into "Safe Mode with Networking" that will allow you to get the files and upload them at the same time.

Try "Last Known Good Configuration" in the F8 boot menu, sometimes it works, half the time not though.




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#5 8 years ago

Does anyone else think this might be a video card problem?

A what? Linux distro live CD? I don't think I know computers that well. Whats that?

Do you get it with the external drive or must you get it seperately?

What happens with many Linux operating systems is that the operating system they get you to download is in an iso file. You burn that to a CD/DVD, and aside from being able to install off the CD like Windows, you can run the entire operating system off the CD. It's quite a bit slower than running it installed onto the hard drive because it's optical, and you can't save any settings because all the data is erased, but it's useful to have some Linux distro (distribution) Live CD on hand somewhere in case you screw up Windows chronically and need/want to get data off the hard drive for whatever reason. Just download something like Ubuntu, it's fairly similar to Windows and isn't hard to figure out, plus it has NTFS support natively, which is what you really want.




BlitZ, The 57th

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#6 8 years ago
Sgt. D. Pilla;5066637If you get the computer to boot for long enough, upload somewhere, or attach to your next reply, the minidump files. Located...C:\Windows\minidump If you do that I can easily diagnose the dump files and tell you exactly what is causing it to BSOD, if its hardware, a driver, or conflicting software. If you can get into "Safe Mode with Networking" that will allow you to get the files and upload them at the same time. Try "Last Known Good Configuration" in the F8 boot menu, sometimes it works, half the time not though.[/QUOTE] I doubt I can get my computer to boot long enough to even go 2 folders deep for any folder at all. Even if the folder is located on the desktop. It blacks out once, comes back to desktop, I enter 1 folder, blacks out again. Comes back in and tells me I have corrupted files and I have to chkdsk and then blacks out and comes back into BSOD. I've tried going into safe mode and safe mode with command prompt and both gets stuck. So I doubt I can get into safe mode with networking. I will try and update though. As for Last Known Good Configuration I've tried that several dozen times already. [QUOTE=Mr. Pedantic;5066640]Does anyone else think this might be a video card problem? What happens with many Linux operating systems is that the operating system they get you to download is in an iso file. You burn that to a CD/DVD, and aside from being able to install off the CD like Windows, you can run the entire operating system off the CD. It's quite a bit slower than running it installed onto the hard drive because it's optical, and you can't save any settings because all the data is erased, but it's useful to have some Linux distro (distribution) Live CD on hand somewhere in case you screw up Windows chronically and need/want to get data off the hard drive for whatever reason. Just download something like Ubuntu, it's fairly similar to Windows and isn't hard to figure out, plus it has NTFS support natively, which is what you really want.

I don't know if its a video card problem. I managed to get in yesterday and all was fine. I could watch shows and even play pinball. This morning I woke to check if my computer was still alive and kicking and it suddenly dropped to 4 bit and the lowest resolution. Although I won't root out the possibility of it spoiling during the time I didn't use it. I never really did anything except listen to some songs, test video and gaming capabilities and then defragging and using that Advanced SystemCare to clear junk files and clean the registry. As for the linux thing. So its like a free-operating system and one of these is Ubuntu. I download and get it on a disc? So when I start up my computer and I'd have to boot up from this disc with Ubuntu? Install it, and they would sorta like act as another OS. I would be able to drag all my files that I want into an external hard drive and be glad to anyone who invented the idea/program of Ubuntu? UPDATE: Safe mode with networking sends me to the BSOD as well. Doesn't get stuck at those driver lines and .dll and .sys lines but sends me to a BSOD shortly after anything at all.




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#7 8 years ago
Mr. Pedantic;5066640Does anyone else think this might be a video card problem?

I do.




Junk angel

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#8 8 years ago

So what's the BSOD message?

As to the linux live cd - you don't exactly install it. It loads the files to ram more or less and you can use it without installing to HDD.




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#9 8 years ago

If you have another computer, I assume you do since this is your oldest one, unplug the Hard drive from the faulty computer and plug it into your working computer as a slave, then just copy the files you want across.

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Make sure to scan for viruses on it before you actually copy anything though.




BlitZ, The 57th

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#10 8 years ago
Junk angel;5066681So what's the BSOD message? As to the linux live cd - you don't exactly install it. It loads the files to ram more or less and you can use it without installing to HDD.[/QUOTE] Several different BSOD msg. One says windows or something has to be terminated unexpectedly because of something. Another is PFN_LIST_CORRUPT Another Memory_Management Another would be PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. There was one which appears for safe mode which doesn't have much sentences but its in a blue screen. I'm still a tad bit confused on linux. So its something like a... Second operating system but if I switch off my computer and take out the disc, I wouldn't get it in my computer again unless I placed the disc in? Something like a boot up from disc operating system that is 'safe' from crashes? [QUOTE=Nemmerle;5066682]If you have another computer, I assume you do since this is your oldest one, unplug the Hard drive from the faulty computer and plug it into your working computer as a slave, then just copy the files you want across. ... Make sure to scan for viruses on it before you actually copy anything though.

Ahh, I'm not much of the comp tech so I really don't know/and don't dare to remove my HDD. Plus, this computer is my brother's and hes real touchy about me sabotaging his computer, so I don't want to risk infected his by plugging it in. Dismantling his CPU would also be unadvisable for me. :(