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#1 6 years ago

So, I intend to buy a new laptop any time soon, as my current one is kind of dying to the ridiculous temperatures, including my display.

I've searched on a site of one of the local tech shops here, and was wondering the following: are these reasonable prices, and are there perhaps alternatives of equal quality, but lower prices? I highly prefer Asus, and as such, searched for it. Here are the two that seemed attractive to me, spec-wise.

1) Asus Notebook N73SV-TZ462V 17.3" (4Launch Shop), price @ €877,00 (~$1,201).

Notable Specs Processor: Intel Core i7 2630QM (Quad-Core) @ ~2.0 GHz RAM: 6 GB (12 GB Max.) DDR3 SDRAM, 1333 MHz Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M, 1 GB DDR3 SDRAM Resolution: Full HD (1920x1080) Integrated camera: 2 MP Cam HDD: 500 GB SATA ATA-300, 5400 rpm

2) Asus Notebook N75SF-V2G-TZ046V 17.3" (4Launch Shop), price @ €969,00 (~$1,327).

Notable Specs Processor: [COLOR="Red"]Identical[/COLOR] RAM: 6 GB (8 GB Max.) DDR3 SODIMM Graphics card: [COLOR="Lime"]NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M 2GB VRAM[/COLOR] Resolution: [COLOR="Red"]Identical[/COLOR] Integrated camera: [COLOR="red"]Identical[/COLOR] HDD:[COLOR="red"] Identical[/COLOR]

Worth the price difference between the two? I've checked benchmarks for these two graphic cards, and there is quite a notable difference, performance-wise, on games such as Deus Ex: HR, Crysis 2, and DIRT 3.

And yes, I intend to use the laptop for both high-end gaming and college, like I am with my current one.


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#2 6 years ago

As far as I know, the N75 isn't even out yet. It looks like a great laptop though, especially the bundled subwoofer*. And as you've said, the graphics card is significantly more powerful. Either way though, don't be expecting to max out games at 19x10. You should be able to play games nicely at medium though.

* if you haven't seen that, google for the N75, it's actually a very cool bit of kit.




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#3 6 years ago

If you have a budget of about 1000 you could also buy a desktop for 800 and some cheap netbook for 200, assuming that you use the laptop only to take notes at college. A gaming laptop is probably heavy and not fun to carry around the whole day. It might also go through its batteries faster. A gaming desktop can be upgraded and normal PC hardware usually delivers more bang for the buck. A desktop is also more comfortable for gaming (proper input devices, you don't have to hunch over a screen).

Otherwise the laptops look good. The only thing that bothers me if it is supposed to be a gaming laptop is that the CPU runs at 2GHZ. I would do some research whether the CPU might not limit the GPU down in such a system.




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#4 6 years ago

Going to agree with MrFancypants here. You can also, if you need to, use remote desktop to connect to your uber duper gaming desktop if you need to do something your netbook can't handle. (although personally I'd get something with a full keyboard and screen over a netbook)




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#5 6 years ago

Thanks to you all for the kind and swift replies. Much appreciated. :)

*Daedalus;5562651As far as I know, the N75 isn't even out yet. It looks like a great laptop though, especially the bundled subwoofer*. And as you've said, the graphics card is significantly more powerful. Either way though, don't be expecting to max out games at 19x10. You should be able to play games nicely at medium though.[/QUOTE] Yeah, apparently the N75 is out here already. At least, according to this store's site, it's deliverable immediately.

I'm not happy with medium settings though, so I think I'll be going for a better one. I've found an alternative, although the price is a tad higher - but that should be doable considering my birthday is coming soon anyway. :)

Asus Notebook G73SW-TZ140V 17.3", price @ €1.549,00 (~$2,094.40)

Specs [SIZE="1"]Resolution: 1920x1080 (Full HD) Chipset: Intel HM65 Processor: Mobile Intel Core i7 2630QM (Quad-Core), ~2.0 GHz Graphics card: NVIDIA GTX 460M 1.5GB DDR5 VRAM (apparently it's high-end according to some gaming benchmarks on notebokecheck) HDD: 1TB (2x500GB) SATA 7200rpm + Hybrid 8GB (2x4GB) SSD RAM: 8GB (4x2GB) PC10666 DDR3 SODIMM (Max. 16GB) 8-Cells battery LAN: 1000Mbit WLAN: 802.11 b/g/n Bluetooth 2.1 3x USB2.0 1x USB3.0 1x HDMI 5-in-1 Cardreader 2.0 Megapixel webcam

Including Asus gaming bag and mouse Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Size: 415x320x18.9-56.9mm Weight: 3.85kg[/SIZE]

MrFancypants;5562690If you have a budget of about 1000 you could also buy a desktop for 800 and some cheap netbook for 200, assuming that you use the laptop only to take notes at college. [/quote] [QUOTE=D3matt;5562709]Going to agree with MrFancypants here.

The reason as to why I'll be using a laptop full-time, is because I am pretty much traveling around a lot, need my laptop with me to do study stuff (programming), and like to play games as good as possible.

And when I'm at home, I'm mostly downstairs instead of my room. =p

[quote="MrFancypants"] The only thing that bothers me if it is supposed to be a gaming laptop is that the CPU runs at 2GHZ. I would do some research whether the CPU might not limit the GPU down in such a system.

I'm not sure myself, perhaps some of the tech savvies around here could shed some light on that one, it'd be greatly appreciated.

And if what Fancypants was wondering is true, is it worth overclocking the laptop's CPU? I know there are some risks involved, but not sure just how worthy of taking these risks are.


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#6 6 years ago

Thanks to you all for the kind and swift replies. Much appreciated. :)

*Daedalus;5562651As far as I know, the N75 isn't even out yet. It looks like a great laptop though, especially the bundled subwoofer*. And as you've said, the graphics card is significantly more powerful. Either way though, don't be expecting to max out games at 19x10. You should be able to play games nicely at medium though.[/QUOTE] Yeah, apparently the N75 is out here already. At least, according to this store's site, it's deliverable immediately.

I'm not happy with medium settings though, so I think I'll be going for a better one. I've found an alternative, although the price is a tad higher - but that should be doable considering my birthday is coming soon anyway. :)

Asus Notebook G73SW-TZ140V 17.3", price @ €1.549,00 (~$2,094.40)

Specs [SIZE="1"]Resolution: 1920x1080 Chipset: Intel HM65 Processor: Mobile Intel Core i7 2630QM (Quad-Core), ~2.0 GHz stock Graphics card: NVIDIA GTX 460M 1.5GB DDR5 VRAM (apparently it's high-end according to some gaming benchmarks on notebokecheck) HDD: 1TB (2x500GB) SATA 7200rpm + Hybrid 8GB (2x4GB) SSD RAM: 8GB (4x2GB) PC10666 DDR3 SODIMM (Max. 16GB) 8-Cells battery LAN: 1000Mbit WLAN: 802.11 b/g/n Bluetooth 2.1 3x USB2.0 1x USB3.0 1x HDMI 5-in-1 Cardreader 2.0 Megapixel webcam

Including Asus Gaming bag en mouse Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Size: 415x320x18.9-56.9mm Weight: 3.85kg[/SIZE]

MrFancypants;5562690If you have a budget of about 1000 you could also buy a desktop for 800 and some cheap netbook for 200, assuming that you use the laptop only to take notes at college. [/quote] [QUOTE=D3matt;5562709]Going to agree with MrFancypants here.

The reason as to why I'll be using a laptop full-time, is because I am pretty much traveling around a lot, need my laptop with me to do study stuff (programming), and like to play games as good as possible.

And when I'm at home, I'm mostly downstairs instead of my room. =p

[quote="MrFancypants"] The only thing that bothers me if it is supposed to be a gaming laptop is that the CPU runs at 2GHZ. I would do some research whether the CPU might not limit the GPU down in such a system.

I'm not sure myself, perhaps some of the tech savvies around here could shed some light on that one, it'd be greatly appreciated.

And if what Fancypants was wondering is true, is it worth overclocking the laptop's CPU? I know there are some risks involved, but not sure just how worthy of taking these risks are.


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#7 6 years ago

These laptop CPUs are a bit different from normal CPUs, so you'd need specialized reviews. Be wary of those models with some letters after the number, this might indicate low voltage versions which perform worse.

As for overclocking - my guess is that overclocking a laptop is not a good idea. Laptops usually have problems with the heat they generate in the standard configuration. As you can't really improve cooling you probably won't be able to increase performance a lot without risking overheating the system.




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#8 6 years ago

As mentioned, laptop CPUs are different than their desktop counterparts, so you can't really make comparisons or assumptions.

While it is "only" running at 2.0GHz, you'd be hard-pressed to find a laptop CPU that operates at 3.0GHz as standard. You'll do fine with that one; it's actually a very powerful chip, and yes, you can probably overclock it a little if the BIOS allows for it (probably won't).

Usually gaming laptops have decent cooling. Alienwares in particular are great for this. I had one a couple of years back, and I had the 2.4GHz dual core in it running at 3.0GHz with no problems. The ASUS one you've posted about looks good though, and AFAIK, it's got decent cooling as well.




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#9 6 years ago

I've received my new laptop (the latest one I posted) several days ago, and am very much impressed so far. It works simply great, has the awesome Intel Processor Boost application, and has satisfying temperatures. Well, satisfyingly enough.

I wouldn't mind some tips on how to reduce temperatures even more, though. There's no dust right now, so... yeah.

Also, thanks for the replies, people. :)


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#10 6 years ago

Have fun with that new laptop :)

Not sure how you could cool it even further though. Maybe place it on slab of metal to dissipate some heat from the case. You could also replace the stock thermal paste on CPU and GPU fans. A high-quality paste, if applied correctly, might shave off one or two degrees.




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