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Kilobyte

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#41 10 years ago

I probably confused you earlier.

Since your now sure the PSU is 300 watts, the 300 watt card will work fine. I wouldn't even sweat putting it in.

Dell actually rates their PSUs according to the maximum stable load. It is capable of pushing higher wattages for short periods of time. Possibly even up to 400 watts. Which means that if the card needs more power for a short time, the PSU can more than handle it without breaking down.

Most PSUs are rated by their maximum capable wattage. Meaning that while they may be capable of 400 watts, they can only sustain 300-350 watts. For cheaper ones, they can only sustain 250 watts, for any reasonable duration.

I suspect that the card manufacturer may be going by the maximum capable output, rather than the sustainable output. So you may even be able to use the 350 watt card, although I would not recommend it.




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#42 10 years ago

Well it turns out this psu actually might be 250w only. I've been searching everywhere and can't really find much info. Most stuff I've been running into are just random forum posts. I've looked all over Dell's support pages/pdf manuals and can't find any info on the psu. I just might have to open it up.

I've seen one site that mentioned that 530's equipped with Core2Duo have the 300w psu's, but for the most part people are saying 250w though they don't mentioned the cpu in use.

Assuming I have a 250w psu, is going with 300w video card risky?




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#43 10 years ago
Morbid_Murder;4942409Assuming I have a 250w psu, is going with 300w video card risky?

More so than I would want it to be.

While I doubt you would have any trouble. If the manufacturer were requiring the 300w to be the minimal stable load, a 250w would result in unpredictable results. The more taxing the game, the more unstable the system could become. Also, with insufficient voltage the CPU, and GPU could overheat, damaging both components. To make matters worse, the fans may not have enough power to cool the systems, worsening the heat issue.

The good news is that with the 300w card, you should theoretically get at least 30minutes per day of game time. Before glitches, slowdown, and crashes affect the gameplay. If you experience those issues at all...

Another option would be to implement external cooling options, to reduce the strain on the system to cool itself. Which would reduce the wattage required slightly. This would eliminate the benefit of a slim line system however,...

Looking at the Dell Website, I think what you actually have is a Inspiron 531s. Which does use the 250w power supply.

Inspiron 531s




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#44 10 years ago

If your only going to be doing Guild Wars, you may want to look into: either getting a better PSU, or going with a mid-range Geforce 6 or 7 series card. I say go with Nvidia, because it usually has better power management than ATI.




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#45 10 years ago

Monster_user;4942416

Looking at the Dell Website, I think what you actually have is a Inspiron 531s. Which does use the 250w power supply.

Inspiron 531s

It's a 530s, I've had it for about a month now.

I just found a 250w req vid card:

Newegg.com - JATON VIDEO-PX7200GS-LP GeForce 7200GS 128MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Low Profile Ready Video Card with L-P Bracket - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

It's dirt cheap and better than nothin so, if this pc really is a 250w, then this might be my next card. I have a question though: If my framerate/load times are already near-perfect, is there a chance that this vid card could actually result in slightly worse performance? I'm asking because this card seems like an older model and this is the only PC I've ever owned with an onboard vidcard.

I just want something that can display all the effects/etc that are missing and preventing me from loading certain areas in the game. Honestly if the card can at least do that, I wouldn't even mind if I got no framerate boost from it.




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#46 10 years ago
Morbid_Murder;4942422If my framerate/load times are already near-perfect, is there a chance that this vid card could actually result in slightly worse performance?

Normally I would say unlikely, but with that card only having 128mb of RAM, :uhm:

A 7200GS is probably the equivalent of a Geforce 6300 graphics card, or a Radeon x300. A Geforce 6500, or Radeon X500 at the most. Given that it only has 128mb of RAM, and your on-board likely has 256 at least, I doubt you'll notice a difference, although the card should be faster than the on-board.

I would expect lower frame-rates once you crank up the effects. With the 7200, you should be able to crank those effects up, but the 128mb of RAM will severely impact the performance once you do, as the game will likely run out of ram on the GPU.




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#47 10 years ago

Like I said before, I had a 8800 GT, and then later a 9800 GTX on a 300w power supply. Those cards are MUCH more demanding in power than any of the low profile ones.Any of those cards should be fine, I never suffered any random shutdowns or glitches. My power supply was just the stock ones in my old Dell E520, and it seemed to do fine with them. Get the 4650, you should be fine, it will run guild wars easily.

Though if you would like to stay safe then I would do what others suggested. Do not get the 7200.




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#48 10 years ago

A ran a All-In-Wonder X800XT on a Dell 250W power supply back in the day with no problems. Like Monster said, Dell does rate thier PSUs different. IIRC from looking around the dell forums i found the 250W in my dell was able to pump out around ~340W max.

A 7200GS is probably the equivalent of a Geforce 6300 graphics card, or a Radeon x300. A Geforce 6500,

It might not even rate that high.




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#49 10 years ago

Well I'm really tempted to get a 300w card. I've been reading around on the Dell forum/Newegg comments and many are reporting that the 300w's are working fine.

Some said this actually worked for them:

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100252HDMI Radeon HD 4550 512MB 64-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

How does that look when it comes to performance? Is it risky to get even if a few already reported it working fine? I probably should open up my Inspiron to check the psu. Though most are saying 250w, some are saying different.




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#50 10 years ago
Morbid_Murder;4943026 I probably should open up my Inspiron to check the psu. Though most are saying 250w, some are saying different.

It would help a lot considering your case could have a completely different power supply then what others are talking about with the same model. Then you can know for sure. Open you case up and tell us the info on it, even if it is a 250w model, you should still be fine. The only thing I would be worried about is if it was a 200w psu.