Heres the deal, i seriously thinking about doing my MCSE (Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer) for those of you that dont know about it click here.
The thing is gaining and retaining the knowledge is easy bit then i think its adviced you take one exam about every month.My problem with all this is that after doing a bit of research i have discovered that to take each exam is £88. To pass you are required to take 6 compulsarys and one elective so thats 88 X 7 which would be £616. Bloody micro rip off in my opinion.
Couple of things then: - What do you guys think generally of these qualifications - Is anyone here actually MS qualified here who could offer advice on how to go about it?
Elmo- What do you guys think generally of these qualifications[/QUOTE]
1. Most Geeks, atleast the ones I've talked to, seem consider these qualifications to be a joke. Its been so long since I've talked to someone who has taken the MCSE for any OS, I can't recall exactly why.
I think it is because the questions involve obscure "features" of Windows, that may never be used, and will be forgotten after the test. I remember being told that it doesn't really provide any assurance that the person taking the test will have any computer skills. (ie, some Dork in College takes the MCSE, and then applies for a technology job. Except he doesn't know the difference between Firewire, Ethernet, and USB.)
I found an interesting article on it. http://www.viperlair.com/articles/archive/rants/mcse.shtml
[QUOTE=Elmo]- Is anyone here actually MS qualified here who could offer advice on how to go about it?
I haven't taken the test yet. $125 USD for the test itself is too expensive for me.
Yeah, they're fairly pointless. "MS Certified" really isn't anything to shout about.
I'd recommend getting one from a respected company like Cisco instead.
£88 isn't that extortionate for an exam to be fair, but with 7 modules it does add up and I don't really think the qualification is worth it. It's like an A+, yes it's an IT qualification that not many people (in the grand scheme of things) have; but the thing is that just about any monkey can buy a book for it, pass it, and stick the letters after their name.
Elmo - What do you guys think generally of these qualifications
Being totally honest, when I see say...a computer repair place that has the MS Certified thing and logo it really doesn't alter my decision on whether I want to pay them to fix my comp or not. But that's just my opinion. :)
Monster_userI haven't taken the test yet. $125 USD for the test itself is too expensive for me.
Yeah, I was going to last year, but decided not to. The only thing it's "useful" for is getting a job sometimes. Not all places give a crap if you have it or not, if you claim you can do it, they'll probably take you if that's what they need.
I'd say having Advanced Higher Computing qualification (Not sure what the equivilant is in England), is better than having MS-certified on your CV.
see the thing is i messed up badly at uni so i really need something to supliment my degree abit
MCSE is a bitch to get (I've seen the training manuals, and they put college texts to shame), and of limited usefulness once you are established. If you're just setting out and can claim to have them (at least, setting out in a Windows environment) they can provide a significant leg up. Honestly, I wouldn't bother with them until you've landed your first (entry level) IT job; once you have that you can evaluate whether or not the time and money involved is worth your while. If you're hellbent on going forward with them ahead of that though, start with MCSA. The only difference between sysadmin and sysengineer is the part about designing and building networks (MCSE includes that part). You can take a current MCSA certification and turn it into an MCSE with the addition or two or three tests, IIRC.
TBH, I'm more impressed with someone who has Cisco certifications when it comes to networking issues; the CCIE: Security lab involves not only configuring several secure networks, but also protecting them from attacks.