Heh, I just realised how many thread's I have created in the tech forum lately. Due to the "Big squeeze" that is HL2. Anyway, im sick of this stupid pre built and a while ago I decided to try my hand(s) at buidling my own computer. As time goes by, i'll add bits and pieces of information. At the moment I want to concentrate one the Mobo + CPU. This PC is mainly for gaming. CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Is this a very good CPU? When was it first released? Is socket 939 better than 940? MOBO: A8V Delux. The CPU is compatable with this MOBO right? The main websites always tent to not give you the right information, or lack it. Which ram is compatable with it (PC 3200, 400MHz/ PC4000 500MHz etc?)? And also it says... "Expert's choice for SOHO and home server" Does this mean it's not the greatest in gaming? Anyway ASUS have a bad habbit of not telling you all the important stuff... If you guys could once again "Enlighten me" that would be good. So these 2 are compatable right? Tommorow i'll be looking at RAM I think.
well im getting a new mobo an cpu an some ram, an i want a A8V mobo with an amd athlon 3500, i have heard it is excellent for gaming and 939 pin is better than 940. And for RAM, get PC4000 if u can, again, i have heard it is supurb for gaming and general programs with it being 500mhz against 400mhz, get corsair xms also, its ment to overclock extremely easely
Nik, from what I understand(and remember) from my research on AMDs is, the 939 is more suitable for those with smaller wallets that can't afford the ECC Registered DIMMS that the 940 pin boards require. I seem to remember the 939 being a lot more forgiving as far as memory configuration. Also, when it comes to memory selection, always follow manufacturer specs. Asus has very comrehensive lists of memory that each mobo supports. Yes, Corsair is good memory, but Asus may not recommend it for the board you want. Also, to cross reference, Kingston has lists of mobos that their DIMMs can be used on. As far as using DDR 500(PC4000), the manufacturer won't come out and say that it'll work, but in most cases, if you take an example of an approved DIMM for a mobo, and just buy the PC4000 version of the same memory, it will be fine. But unless you plan to overclock more than 200-300mHz(cpu wise) then you really don't need super high speed memory. Plus OCing more than that will probably necessitate water cooling. Just something to think about.
like operative said, 939 is better since you dont have to buy registered ram.
Well yeah thats true isn't it. I did notice thier list of ram to use also. It wasn't much of a selection there but ill have another look. So Op, can you confirm a 3500+ VERY good for gaming? Any better than an FX - 51? Also, what would be a good mobo to go with it? I hear the SK8N's are 940's. AV8 on the other hand...?
Well, it's hard for me to say what's good and what's not concerning AMDs. What you need to find is someone who knows AMDs very well, and is willing to give SOUND advice concerning them. Something other than the usual "Get an AMD 'cause they all pwn Intel" statement. Just like any other manufacturer, AMD is going to have good stuff and OK stuff. Intel does the same thing. They do that so that the products can appeal to people of all needs and wants. That's why there are Celeron and Duron cpus. Not because that's the best they have, but becausea product like those is OK for someone that wants a fairly fast product, but doesn't want to spend the money. Same with top end stuff. I'm just not sure what is best for gaming when it comes to AMD. They have so many new chips out now. If you have the money, the 940 is probably going to be the ultimate, but at the same time not entirely necessary. I'm hoping that someone with some real AMD knowledge will read this and shed some light on this for you.
Look, any FX is very good for gaming OK? Just like anything above a 9600pro is very good for gaming. You dont have to have the best of the best for it to be good for gaming! Just buy any of the two CPUs, they will both satisfy you, i hope.
12th March 2004
NIK the amd 64 comes in 939 and 754 sockets but the 754 only supports single channel memory i believe suggeat you read something like this:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q3/athlon64-3500/index.x?pg=1 as there are other differences also in level 2 memory cache but the dual channel support should even this up also it hard to say how long 754 will be around unless AMD use it a a base for cheaper cpu's like the athlon/duron of old, me i went for 939 as i got an FX 55 which is only 939 and has no problem running Far Cry or Doom3 at the highest quality
Thinking about it.
GREAT! This is very helpful. Im definatly going for the 3500+ as a 64 bit chip. What about a 939 socket mobo guys? Whats one of the best out there? **Saying best, i mean the one that has all the bells and whistles, can support the most ram, water cooled capable etc, i'm thinking the AV8 though**
12th March 2004
i got the msi neo2 platinum its got a slightly different layout to a normal board but is rated as one of the best boards for overclocking, just search for "socket 939 motherboard reviews" and you will find plenty of reviews as i did, good hunting
Thinking about it.