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#1 7 years ago

I dont want to use software like fraps to record.

I want to record video and audio from my desktop but i dont understand mutch about the matter, using software like fraps affects performance and i hate that, from everything i have searched i found this wich is the ideal but its waaaay too expensive: VGA Recorder Standard | Recording | Products | Epiphan Systems. I am sure there are cheaper ways to do what i want, something like this: HD PVR Product Description, but this i wouldnt know how to record the audio from my desktop, also it would require another PC wich i dont want to acquire and it doenst support 16:10... i want to record at 1920x1200 resolution wich makes it even more complicated.

I believe it is possible to do what i want using a PVR/DVR but i am not sure wich products i really need and the setup necessary... my video output is DVI and the audio outputs are from a motherboard asus P7H55-M (Optical S/PDIF out ports) but i supose its coaxial 3.5mm... i dont understand mutch about it...

I hope i will get some help in here... if not at least tell me where i can find help, thank you.




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#2 7 years ago

There's an alternative to Fraps now called DxTory which has a free trial. It's worth giving a shot.

Features

  • DxTory can do lossless capture like Fraps, but can also compress the captures on the fly for you if you're more concerned about file size than image quality, or just don't have the time or don't want to bother using a compression tool afterward.
  • DxTory has a unique feature called Distribution HDD Writing that allows it to split the writing of the captures onto more than one drive simultaneously (obviously requires more than one HDD). This feature is said to allow far better performance than the infamous lag of Fraps.
  • DxTory does not split the captures into 4GB files like Fraps, it writes them as one large file. As far as I can tell from reading the overview of the Distribution HDD Writing feature, when using more than one drive you'd get one file per drive.
  • DxTory is not limited to full or half frame capture like Fraps. You can set pretty much any resolution you want for the capture clips.
  • DxTory has a built-in FPS limiter separate from the capture FPS setting that you can set to any FPS cap to allow smoother game performance on games that fluctuate in FPS a lot. So this feature can be used while not recording and while recording. It can also keep your GPU from heating up as much by keeping it from rendering frame rates much higher than needed.
  • DxTory can also record two sound inputs simultaneously, such as game sound and mic sound if playing with a headset. You can even separately edit them afterward since they are kept as independent streams. In this way you can either add your mp mic chat without an audio editing tool, or use an audio editor to edit out any imperfections, censor swear words, even add commentary or humor in quiet spots.

Summary

The only caveats I see are Dxtory is roughly $10 more than Fraps, and since it offers MANY more features, has a higher learning curve to use. However the way I see it, the price is justified and still FAR cheaper than the hardware method you were considering. Unlike Fraps they also have a forum, so many of the questions you have could be discussed there.

The trial version leaves a watermark on the captures, so you won't necessarily want to use it to make an actual project, but unlike Fraps you can record both audio and video for extended periods while the trial period is active, so you can at least try it out fully to see if it's what you want.

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#3 7 years ago

If you're looking at hardware alternatives, try a video capture card.




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#4 7 years ago

Dxtory is cheaper, and from my experiences has worked way better than FRAPS. The difference is it actually takes some configuring, you can't just start and go.




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#5 7 years ago

I am trying Dxtory and its quite amazing i tryed recording world of tanks wich is a very badly optimised game and it only looses about 10 fps max or none the game stays very smooth, what i havent figured out yet is how to compress on the fly still need to check performance while doing that.




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#6 7 years ago
Supa;5569876Dxtory is cheaper, and from my experiences has worked way better than FRAPS.[/QUOTE]Cheaper? Fraps is $37 here in the states. Cheapest I've seen DxTory in reviews (their site doesn't seem to show the price) is $42 CAD, which converts to about $40 USD.[QUOTE=Frenzier;5569890]...what i havent figured out yet is how to compress on the fly still need to check performance while doing that.

The way to capture compressed should be via the same page you set the capture FPS with. You'll need to have the codec you prefer to use installed as well. For instance if you wanted to encode with x264, it would look like this:

dxtoryx264.jpg

Clicking the button to the right of the codec drop down box, which says "Show Configuration dialog box of the codec" when you put the cursor over it, opens the configuration page for the codec...

x264config.jpg

DxTory's codec page looks like this, with the RGB True Quality option being lossless uncompressed capture. As you can see they only offer a few basic presets for compression without even divulging the bit rate.

dxtorycodec.jpg




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#7 7 years ago

Omen you are awesome, Dxtory is really good, but compressing on the fly is not really usefull since it affects performance, using the standard settings i can record battlefield bad company 2 and lose only about 5 fps or less with total resolution and quality, then i can just compress ot whatever i want.

Thank you very mutch Omen.




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#8 7 years ago
>Omen<;5569977Cheaper? Fraps is $37 here in the states. Cheapest I've seen DxTory in reviews (their site doesn't seem to show the price) is $42 CAD, which converts to about $40 USD.

My bad, I was doing too much when I posted that. :P

What I meant, is it's more expensive, but offers more options than FRAPS. I honestly only use FRAPS as an FPS overlay nowadays, but as for recording videos when I want to, I choose Dxtory, because when my FPS drops below 60 for a split second, it doesn't drop to 30 and stay there.




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#9 7 years ago

Frenzier;5570000Omen you are awesome, Dxtory is really good, but compressing on the fly is not really usefull since it affects performance, using the standard settings i can record battlefield bad company 2 and lose only about 5 fps or less with total resolution and quality, then i can just compress ot whatever i want.

Thank you very mutch Omen.

Your welcome, and that's what I expected to hear regarding on the fly compression. It's a lot for the PC to be doing at once, esp if it's a resource intense game you're playing.

That said, it may depend on what codec you're compressing with, the compression settings, and how many HDDs you're using for the Distribution HDD Writing feature. They show up to 3 being used at once in their overview.

Anyway you cut it though, HDDs are cheap nowadays, so whether you want to try writing with 3 drives at a time, or just want more space to store the files and compress later, it's not that expensive to make the upgrade.

BTW, when using Distribution HDD Writing, was I correct in assuming it writes one file per drive when using that feature for capturing? I'm curious because that demo video I posted talks of not having to join together separate files after capturing.




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#10 7 years ago

Honestly I'd rather just use a RAID array than some software solution, but that's just me.