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Sgt. D. Pilla

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#1 10 years ago

Hey Lads, I have 3 minutes before I begin my final rebuild of my system, its been rebuilt a few times because the Vista trials expired on me and because I forgot to set a partition as active after converting it to a dynamic disk for software raid.

Anyways, Final rebuild with a brought version of Vista VLK x64, and I want to know what raid I should do.. Software Raid Striped *What I run at the moment* Hardware Raid 0 *Striped* Hardware Raid 0+1 *Striped Mirror* Hardware Raid 1 *Mirror* Hardware Raid 5

I have 3 hard drives, two 250GBs, and one 320GB. So I can do a Raid 5, but I'm not sure how I should set it up.... I want to have the following... 50GB Windows Partition (Where Vista, and other apps like WinRar are installed) 120GB Shared Partition Remaining Space Partition for games

I suppose my question is, If I setup a Raid 5, can I still partition the Hard Drives to achieve the above? Also, what Raid should I do? And by then end of typing this, I had to have began the Rebuild already to finish it on time...Bugger...




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#2 10 years ago

All I'd do is put the two 250GB drives in RAID1 for storing important stuff, then have Windows and the games partition on the 320GB drive.

That's if you actually need to use RAID...at all?




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#3 10 years ago

I have the ability to, so may aswell, it improves overall game load speeds, especially with newer games that stream textures




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#4 10 years ago
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#5 10 years ago

I wouldn't believe the improving of the loading speeds all that much on games like Crysis that stream textures but are VERY texture rich. In fact I get just as good FPS in game with texture streaming turned off in Crysis. I saw some reviews on the screaming fast Velociraptor recently and even it is only about 1 sec faster at loading Crysis levels. RAID is highly overrated for game level loading IMO. It would more likely be best for defragging, installing/uninstalling, etc.




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#6 10 years ago

Anyways, Which would you suggest? and can I set the partitions up as I desire?

--EDIT-- Thanks for correcting my spelling C38368




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#7 10 years ago

K, in the end I went with a raid 0 And so far, my boot times have been halved at the very least, whoever says there isn't much of a performance increase, is stupid, its a massive difference But YAY Im proud, I encoutered my first compatability problem...well sort off... My Chipset drivers wouldn't install, and kept causing "Critical System Error" restarts, anyways, Vista had a solution to the problem, and I later discovered it was because the chipset drivers provided with the motherboard, were 32bit... So I wouldn't even call that compatability, or Vistas fault... Now I can offically say I've tried 32bit with no issues, and 64bit with no issues HURRAH for Vista...HURRAH for a decent operating system...HURRAH for Microsoft making something decent...HURRAH!




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#8 10 years ago
Sgt. D. Pilla;4396994K, in the end I went with a raid 0 And so far, my boot times have been halved at the very least, whoever says there isn't much of a performance increase, is stupid, its a massive difference

I don't know whom you're referring to when you say stupid, but you've yet to prove my above post wrong. In fact you've only shown so far the typical system related speed increase you get with ANY faster HD setup, be it RAID or faster drive itself like Raptor or Veliciraptor. What's stupid is assuming you can get noticeably faster level load times in games with RAID vs unstriped... "I have the ability to, so may aswell, it improves overall game load speeds, especially with newer games that stream textures" ...then calling others stupid for saying there isn't a performance increase just because you got faster system boot times. I did indicate there would be system related increase like defragging, installing/uninstalling (and obviously boot times too). Before you dish out trash talk, make up your mind what you're going to bench for, system performance or game loading performance. The two are unrelated and shouldn't be lumped together. Like I said, I've seen the test results of how a Velociraptor loads Crysis, and even though that type of drive yields faster results than going RAID, there's still only about 1 second speed increase on loading the Island level. Faster drives are a better way to go than fussing with RAID, and even with ultra fast drives the game level load times aren't going to be way faster. It's system related performance increase that makes a faster HD setup worthwhile, mainly in the form of a faster HD. RAID isn't going to yield as much speed increase as a 10,000RPM drive and the trade-offs associated with it aren't worth it.




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#9 10 years ago

:S Sorry, wasn't meant to be an insult, was more a general referring to anyway that says raid isn't worth it...including myself a few years ago.

But dude, try raid 0 with Crysis or other games that stream load, its alot faster




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#10 10 years ago

I tend to believe this a lot more, esp when you first responded by only mentioning the boot time was faster. [COLOR=blue]http://www.legitreviews.com/article/699/6/[/COLOR] I guess I was wrong though, rather than a second faster it's only about .42 sec faster, and everyone knows a fast drive like the VR150 will do more for your game level load times than RAID will. However I admit I'm a bit biased because I've been in the 10,000 RPM HD realm for some time now, so I'm used to pretty fast load times. RAIDing a Raptor or Velociraptor makes little sense. Furthermore, what you're saying about texture streaming doesn't even make sense. The texture streaming of Crysis for instance can be turned off to get better texture quality on rocky peaks with no drop in FPS if you have enough RAM. The streamed textures are cached via the memory, not streamed via the HD. r_TexturesStreaming [COLOR=blue]http://www.tweakguides.com/Crysis_11.html[/COLOR]




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