This is more of a guess in upcoming market trends in some ways than anything requiring technical knowlwedge, but it will help if any of you know the comparisons (preferably based on experience) of the two video cards mentioned. I've only found one test comparing the two cards and on newer games with high settings the upgrade can do as much as 50% better. It would also play the new shader 3 required games my card cannot. Besides that it would actually give my current rig some retail value whereas in it's present state it's not worth much. I have an aging P2 3.0GHz, X800XT, 1GB RAM system that will be replaced with a new build sometime soon. I am shooting for a next gen 45nm quad, (hopefully shared cache if Intel makes one), 9800GTX and 4GB RAM system. It may be until mid to late next year before the parts I want are available and affordable enough. I want the quad to be at least 2.4 GHz (Q6600 equivalent) and will probably OC it to at least 3.0GHz. OK, enough for the setup to the actual question. I am caught between ignoring all the higher spec and shader 3 limited games until then or doubling my RAM to 2 GB and upgrading to an X1950PRO 512MB AGP video card. Two of the things that made me seriously consider this upgrade after thinking I could probably wait instead were the Crysis Sandbox2 editor giving me system memory warnings (it requires 2GB) and seeing a refurbished Sapphire X1950PRO 512MB AGP on Ebay for $115 (GearXS Ebay store). Originally I was thinking the XFX7950GT 512MB AGP but many customer complaints about the card and too high of pricing made me drop the idea. The Sapphire and the RAM I'm looking at would only total $183 vs about $350 for the other option now that Newegg dropped the XFX card. I have not checked with Sapphire yet to see if their refurbed cards carry any warranty at all but since they aren't selling them direct like Creative and others do their refurbed stuff, I'm assuming I only get the 14 day exchange option from GearXS in case of problems. Another affordable option is the GeCube X1950PRO 256MB AGP on Newegg for the same price ($115) new. The 256MB VRAM would limit me some on resolution and some of the higher settings on graphic intense games but it is new with full warranty.
256mb Vram will be enough for playing at 1280x1024. You can also look at X1900GT for 90$ at newegg is a very good deal
I already ordered the X1950Pro 512MB for $109. It's the lowest price I could find on that card and it's the fastest AGP available. The 512MB will come in handy for higher resolutions and texture loads too. I should be able to play a lot of my games at 1600x1200 with it.
@ : You speak of the 9800GTX.... do you have any evidence these cards are even in production? I'm not challenging you angrily, myself, I want a kickass card like this as well, but will it really be called that specific model?
n88tr;4017661@ : You speak of the 9800GTX.... do you have any evidence these cards are even in production? I'm not challenging you angrily, myself, I want a kickass card like this as well, but will it really be called that specific model?
Well of course no one knows for sure yet n88tr but there's been enough said about it I'm sure regardless of what they call it there will likely be a 1 billion transistor 9000 series card. I was going to wait a bit longer to find out for sure when and for how much but this price I saw on the X1950Pro 512MB was too good to pass up.
srry if i misread it or so.. But why not a DX10 card?
Sovereign001;4017731srry if i misread it or so.. But why not a DX10 card?
He has AGP, and AFAIK, there are no AGP video cards out there (yet) that supports DX10. @ >Omen< : Great deal you got there! When you do a total system upgrade, you can always hock the parts on eBay and get some of your money back!
What are you talking about? There's lots - [COLOR=Blue]DirectX 10 AGP 8X Video Cards[/COLOR] - Easily affordable too.
Aphis_Ikon;4018715What are you talking about? There's lots - [COLOR=blue]DirectX 10 AGP 8X Video Cards[/COLOR] - Easily affordable.
Wow! I did not know that (and that is why I wrote AFAIK). I upgraded from AGP 7 or 8 months ago and none of those existed. Sorry about that Sov, and thank you for correcting me Aphis. I will now rephrase: There are no high enough-end AGP DX10 video cards on the market (yet) to suit his needs.
The goal was to get the fastest AGP card at the best price I could find. I think I succeeded at that. Like I mentioned I won't be using it very long, gonna build a new rig when the parts I want are available and affordable, which will definitely include DX10 compatibility, quad core, and a fast enough video card to run 1920x1200 at max by itself for a good 3-5 years. I was just thinking earlier today I didn't spend much more on the extra gig of RAM and video card upgrade than I did my current gig of RAM I bought with the system 3 years ago. Anytime you can get an upgrade like that for the price of your system memory it's pretty easy to live with. Now I'll be anxiously awaiting it's arrival so I can get back into the Crysis modding I was doing. Sandbox2 is really resource hungry.