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Digz

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#1 7 years ago

Hi all I need your help in buying a new graphics card, I currently have an ATI Radeon HD 5450 and I want to upgrade to a much better preferably high end graphics card, although my budget limit is around £150 and really really pushing it is £200 but that's only for some super good card.

Here are some of my PC specs:

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Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.110622-1503) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: Inspiron 580 BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.9GHz Memory: 8192MB RAM Available OS Memory: 8056MB RAM DirectX Version: DirectX 11 DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: Using System DPI System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

And my graphics card:

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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5450 Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x68F9) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_010E1028&REV_00 Display Memory: 685 MB Dedicated Memory: 1010 MB Shared Memory: 3771 MB Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor Monitor Model: SyncMaster Monitor Id: SAM0115 Native Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60.020Hz) Output Type: HD15 Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1099 (English) Driver Version: 8.902.0.0 DDI Version: 10.1 Driver Model: WDDM 1.1 Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 10/12/2011 20:13:00, 867328 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes WHQL Date Stamp: Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2BB9-11CF-D377-0421BEC2C535} Vendor ID: 0x1002 Device ID: 0x68F9 SubSys ID: 0x010E1028 Revision ID: 0x0000 Driver Strong Name: oem71.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_EvergreenC:8.902.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_68f9 Rank Of Driver: 00E62001 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C

I also have some pics of my PC set up if that helps below.

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And some others:

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Let me know what you think and what I can get to help boost my PC performance and if you need any more information from me let me know :)




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#2 7 years ago

You need to list your PSU (power supply), it's a key factor in determining how powerful a GPU your system can handle. If you're not sure of the brand/model you can download the free tool called HWMonitor and it will show all your hardware specs. CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

You're not going to be able to get a high end one in that price range, esp if you need to get a more powerful PSU to run it properly. You CAN however get a high midrage card or entry level high end card.

If you want to stick with ATI, the 6970 is the best high end card bang for the buck wise, but they start at around 275 GBP from what I've read. The ones you probably should look at are the 6950 1GB in ATI, and the 560 Ti 1GB in Nvidia. Both are similar in price and performance, well, here in the US regarding price anyway, don't know about the UK. If your system's PSU is speced as low as the GPU, which requires only a 300w unit, a 500w 30a PSU will be adequate system power for either of those GPUs.




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#3 7 years ago

According to Dell's website the Inspiron 580 comes with a 300W power supply. If you want to buy a high end card you'll probably need more, about 500W. For PSU recommendations look at the other threads.

Anyway, you said in chat that disappearing weapons in BF3 were the reason for the upgrade? That card isn't really that old, so it should be compatible with BF3. The problem is most likely caused by your driver or settings.

But if you want more performance I would also recommend a ATI 6950 (make sure you have enough place in your case as these cards are long) or Nvidia 560. Nvidia cards perform better in BF3, it seems.




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#4 7 years ago
MrFancypants;5584738Nvidia cards perform better in BF3, it seems.

Initially the 6950 was performing better than the 560 Ti in BF3, esp BF3 beta. Even at launch all but the higher end 400 and 500 series Nvidias were having problems with BF3. Now that the 285.79 beta driver is out though, the problems appear to have been fixed and performance boosted a bit. So the 560 Ti might be performing equally or better than the 6950 now. AMD hardware is no slouch at BF3 though, on both CPU and GPU. Overall I think Nvidia has better, more expedient driver support though.

On dimensions, yes, the 6950 is at least an inch longer. The reference 560 Ti 1GB runs about 9" long, while the shortest 6950 is about 10". If you have a smallish Dell case, the 6950 could present fit problems.




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#5 7 years ago

I have friends whose AMD cars outperform my GTX 560 Ti. I'm about to try those new drivers, so we'll see if they actually give me an increase in performance.

The new beta drivers seem to have gotten rid of all the stutters, which is nice. Game feels and runs smoothly now. Still doesn't run as you'd expect a GTX 560 Ti to run it, but whatever, I can deal.




Digz

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#6 7 years ago

>Omen<If you want to stick with ATI, the 6970 is the best high end card bang for the buck wise, but they start at around 275 GBP from what I've read. The ones you probably should look at are the 6950 1GB in ATI, and the 560 Ti 1GB in Nvidia. Both are similar in price and performance, well, here in the US regarding price anyway, don't know about the UK. If your system's PSU is speced as low as the GPU, which requires only a 300w unit, a 500w 30a PSU will be adequate system power for either of those GPUs.[/QUOTE]

Thanks guys it looks as if I will need to upgrade my PSU, I'd probably do it to around 600w just in case and I'll probably look to spend more than £200 now, amazon has the card you mentioned:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11188-05-50G-HD6950-Graphics-GDDR5/dp/B0054X4FXQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321175008&sr=8-1

However if the 6950 doesn't fit I'd be willing to go for the 6970:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11187-00-40R-6970-GDDR5-Graphics/dp/B004JNN87G/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1321175580&sr=1-1

Or if you say that the 560 Ti is the way to go, but then again if I am going for a bump up in price I could compare the 6970 to the GTX 570?

I'll probably go to my local techy shop and see if they can install a power supply and the gfx card, or if they could procure the lot and install it for me as I'm really a tech nooblet apart from installing one replacement gfx card previously.

[QUOTE=MrFancypants]Anyway, you said in chat that disappearing weapons in BF3 were the reason for the upgrade? That card isn't really that old, so it should be compatible with BF3. The problem is most likely caused by your driver or settings.

I have downloaded the new drivers but one error keeps appearing:

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AMD Media Foundation Decoders Final Status: Fail Version of Item: 1.0.61012.1616 Size: 1 Mbytes



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#7 7 years ago

AMD drivers can be annoying. You'll probably have to completly remove any trace of old drivers with a tool like drivercleaner. There are some websites with guides on how to properly install the new drivers after that (it mostly just involved lots of restarting).

Also, if you consider the 6970 instead of the 6950 keep in mind that both of these cards are very long. There are versions of this card with special coolers (which I would recommend as the standard cooler is rather loud) and those often take even more space.




Digz

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#8 7 years ago

Alright I'll look to remove the drivers and install the new ones, I'll look to download drivercleaner as well to help out.

EDIT: just tried to uninstall the drivers I got blue screened like 4 times, yay, I'll try and do it later when I've done these assignments for uni and backed them up lol.

Yeah I hear you on that, I'll have a look and measure it out and look to get a special version of the card with a cooler.




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#9 7 years ago

Check Ebuyer m8. They have a 6950 £30 cheaper XFX HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Dual Mini DisplayPort.. | Ebuyer.com




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#10 7 years ago

Digz.;5584928Alright I'll look to remove the drivers and install the new ones, I'll look to download drivercleaner as well to help out.

EDIT: just tried to uninstall the drivers I got blue screened like 4 times, yay, I'll try and do it later when I've done these assignments for uni and backed them up lol.

Yeah I hear you on that, I'll have a look and measure it out and look to get a special version of the card with a cooler.

Dell PCs sometimes pose extra difficulties with drivers, but you should be ok if you uninstall everything with driver cleaner, then restart and install the standard windows VGA driver and then restart to install the updated ATI drivers.

Sometimes it is impossible to install the Catalyst software properly if previous installations have messed your system up. In that case all you can do is to install the driver itself manually (it is a separate download without the Catalyst software) or start over with a fresh installation of windows.




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