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RadioShackRob

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#1 10 years ago

Eh, after seeing what both sides are going for, its going to make it a tough choice on the next card line up offered by ATi and nVIDIA. Lets face it, nVIDIA will most likely offer a faster solution, but at what cost? The die size is even bigger then the G80's, has a way bigger Transistor count, runs on an even higher 512-Bit Memory bus, These things are going to be big, bulky, and power hungry. ATi on the other hand is looking into making their cards power efficient, running on 256-Bit wide GDDR5 memory, and making up for bandwidth in clock speeds. x2 4870's in crossfire are probably going to be a much cheeper option then one 9900 GTX. Power supply taken in consideration, you should be able to run a lot more with a lot less through ATi as opposed to nVIDIA. It will be interesting to see what happens here... I'm not excited about this.. I really hate ATi drivers and control panels and would hate to have to buy one of their products....




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#2 10 years ago
RadioShackRobIt will be interesting to see what happens here... I'm not excited about this.. I really hate ATi drivers and control panels and would hate to have to buy one of their products....

Major ATI driver problems probably are largely a thing of the past now. They really have started to get there act together with the HD 3800's and their new and much improved drivers for them.

I posted this the the "nVidia GTX 280" thread, but it applies here as well, These are to be the final specs and suggested retail prices for ATI's next gen cards, according to most sites: Radeon HD 4870 X2:

  • 480x2 Shader Processors
  • 1 or 2GB GDDR5
  • Not sure on clock speeds
  • 512-bit Memory Interface (256x2)
  • 55nm
  • Priced at $499

Radeon HD 4870:

  • 480 Shader Processors
  • 1GB GDDR5
  • 850Mhz Core Clock
  • 3870Mhz Memory Clock
  • 256-bit Memory Interface
  • 55nm
  • 800 Million transistors
  • 160W max power draw
  • Priced at $299

Radeon HD 4850:

  • 480 Shader Processors
  • 512MB GDDR3
  • 650Mhz Core Clock
  • 2286Mhz Memory Clock
  • 256-bit Memory Interface
  • 55nm
  • 800 Million transistors
  • 120W max power draw
  • Priced at $249

I think ATI is making a comeback now. From what i've seen, the 4850 is to be 25-30% faster than the 9600GT/8800GT, And the 4870 is said to be about 25% faster than the 9800GTX. I think the 4870X2 is look good for taking on the GTX 280 (9900GTX).

Lets face it, nVIDIA will most likely offer a faster solution, but at what cost? The die size is even bigger then the G80's, has a way bigger Transistor count, runs on an even higher 512-Bit Memory bus, These things are going to be big, bulky, and power hungry. ATi on the other hand is looking into making their cards power efficient,

The GTX 280 is said to have a max power draw at 250W, which is way higher than the 160W of the 4870. Nvidia doesn't seem to care about efficiency at all, just raw power.

I already have the money and intend to get the 4870 when its released, along with a Phenom and another 2GB ram.




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#3 10 years ago

I just installed a 780G in my LAN box and I can now play some of my games (WOW and BF2) with the onboard GPU. It also has a PCIx slot and if I throw a Radeon 3000 series card in it can crossfire with the onboard graphics.

IIRC Nvidia's response to the 780G is the 8000 series but I have not seen one yet.

If this is the future of onboard graphics and such I have no complaints AS LONG AS I CAN UPGRADE THE GRAPHICS IF I CHOOSE.

I will also mention that I had a heck of a time with my 8600GTS when I put it in the system. Overlapping and double icons, two task bars, etc. Had to take 8600GTS back out and uninstall Nvidia drivers.

It was a conflict of some sort but at this time I cant say what. Have also had my 7600GT in same system and it ran no problem.