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#1 13 years ago

Opera 8 Beta 1

The Opera 8 Beta is available for download at http://www.opera.com/download/?ver=8.00b1 It seems to be stable enough and incorporates many nice new features

Changes Since Technical Preview 4

User Interface Re-added window handling preference to first run start-up dialog. Improved on the pop-up block notification. Click notifier to open the pop-up, page trash switches to attention state if the current page has a blocked pop-up, and items blocked from the current page are displayed in bold. Added support for dynamic relayout of dialogs, including expanding dialogs. Changing skins, fonts, and so forth while dialogs are open will now relayout correctly. Changes to "Windows" preferences; moved some options to an "Advanced" section, renamed Advanced MDI to Advanced Opera workspace. Made "Delete private data" dialog expanding. Simplified bookmark and bookmark folder properties dialogs. Solved issue with saving of redirected images.

Voice Default browser command prefix has changed from "browser" to "Opera". The Voice button and "Speak" in hotclick/context menu now prompt Windows 2000 and XP users to download and install voice libraries if voice is not enabled. Improved handling of URLs in bookmarks. Messaging and newsfeeds Avoid newsfeed update check getting stuck if server is down. Improved handling of redirected newsfeeds. List of chat servers updated and expanded.

Miscellaneous The closed padlock icon for secure sites now appears inside the address field. Click to display security information concerning the site. More information on non-errors will be presented in the JavaScript console when available. Made sure links inside the JavaScript console launch in source viewer again. Fixed authentication issue: pages can now be authenticated in any sequence. Multiple fixes and enhancements related to ERA. Fixed issue with non-US locales in the xml:lang attribute. Fixed several rendering issues.

Changes since 7.54u1

User Interface Added voice feature and support for documents written in XHTML+VoiceXML. Enable in Tools > Preferences > Voice to download the necessary additional files. Available for Windows 2000 and XP only. For more information, see the help files and the Opera with Voice page. Made the default "Prefer pages inside window" setup simpler and added choice of window preference to first run start-up dialog. Added "Advanced Opera workspace" preference that makes full use of the Multiple Document Interface. Extensive simplification of menus and dialogs. The menu and panel setup is now dynamic and depends on what features the user has activated: The "Mail" and "Chat" menus and panels are added as e-mail and chat accounts are set up by the user. Account handling is now available in the "Tools" menu. A separate "Feeds" menu is added when the user adds an RSS newsfeed for the first time. The contacts panel is only displayed if e-mail or chat accounts exist. The "Window" menu is only displayed when the "Advanced Opera workspace" option is selected in the first run start-up dialog Tools > Preferences > Windows. Removed "Navigation" menu. Added trash can button on the page bar that notifies of blocked pop-ups and doubles as a repository for closed pages that can be retrieved. Unwanted pop-ups are now blocked by default. Added start bar that drops down from the address field when it is focused. Contains various options for navigation and search. Added view bar toggled by the eye button on the address bar. Contains new voice button, new "fit to window width" feature, search in page, and styling/zooming options. New customization dialog (View > Toolbars > Customize) includes customization of panel setup. New "Delete private data" dialog has simple and advanced options. "Save with images" is now an option within the save dialog, found in the "File type" drop-down menu. "Continue from last time" is now the default start-up setting. In the default setup, each tab on the page bar has its own "Close" button. Enhancements to notifications for transfers, messages, and feed items. Notifications are now displayed above the system tray. Swapped F4 with Shift + F4 for toggling panels. F4 now toggles the panels with the panel selector. Added Ctrl + F12 and Shift + F12 as keyboard shortcuts for the Preferences and Customize dialogs, respectively. Enabled text selection in certain dialogs, such as JavaScript Alert. The "in-line find" option for search in page has been moved to the search preferences. Added setting for (dis-)allowing scripts to hide the address bar. Available in Tools > Preferences > Multimedia > JavaScript options. Fixed problem selecting the first letter of a text selection with the mouse. Fixed problem where form element status was forgotten when toggling print preview.

Display and standards support Implemented Opera's Extensible Rendering Architecture (ERA): Added "Fit to window width" feature. Available on Web pages and for printing, this setting squeezes page contents to make them fit the width of the screen and avoid horizontal scrolling or margin overflow. The "Small screen" mode now includes more of the page's original styling. Support for CSS3 speech module (properties new to CSS3 are prefixed by "-xv-") and XHTML+Voice 1.2 Support for XMLHttpRequest, required for using Gmail Web mail. Also added support for XMLSerializer and DOMParser. Support for DOM3 Load and Save. Transparent background (wmode) support for plug-ins. Changed calculated line height to be based on actual font size rather than specified font size. Fixed handling of nested floats. Several fixes related to bidirectional text support. Allow mixing of background-position and keyword, in accordance with CSS2.1. Borders on text fields can be removed with CSS. Improved handling of paged media. Recognize "application/vnd.wap.xhtml+xml" documents as handheld.

Messaging and newsfeeds When a page has embedded links for one or several RSS newsfeeds, an RSS icon is displayed within the address field. Click on the icon to subscribe or get a multiple choice menu if several newsfeed links are present. Improved "Add newsfeed?" dialog. Separate "Feeds" menu is added to Opera's main menu when first newsfeed is activated. Newsfeeds can now be read independently of the mail panel. Improved consistency of newsfeed checking. Improved handling of contacts with multiple e-mail addresses. Added options to mark message threads as read (keyboard shortcut M) and go to next unread thread (shortcut N. Several improvements to quick reply: expand automatically when typing multiple lines, handle one draft per message, and reset focus to message list after replying. Chat improvements Status is now set globally in the chat menu. Added "ban" and "kick with reason" commands, as well as typed "/invite" command. Support for links/URLs using "irc://". List of servers updated and expanded.

Security Fix for tabbed/MDI browsing vulnerability reported in Secunia Advisory SA12713. For more information, see Opera's security advisory: Phishing attack possible with a delayed JavaScript prompt The closed padlock icon for secure sites now appears inside the address field. Click to display security information concerning the site.

Documentation Help documents are now on line, still accessible from the menu or by pressing F1. Implemented in-line error pages that replace most error dialogs. Help files and error pages have the CSS signatures "opera-help" and "opera-error".

Miscellaneous Implemented automated weekly version control to let user know whether there is a new release of Opera available. (Can be disabled by setting "Check For New Opera=0" in Opera6.ini.) Manual "Check for new release" option added to help menu. If Java is enabled, but not found, the user will be prompted and offered a download. If the user accepts, the Java Runtime Environment download page is loaded; no Opera with Java version is offered. Various stability improvements. Fixed authentication issue; pages can now be authenticated in any sequence. Fix to restore previous default file settings after uninstalling Opera.

So what do you think? I've downloaded it and it renders the pages much more effectively, seems still to work with my fave skins too. The loading bar incorporated into the address bar was rather nice too.




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#2 13 years ago

How do I use that stupid voice thing, everytime I try it I get an annoying voice saying "SORRY! I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!" :p




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#3 13 years ago

Duno, I never saw a cause to use it.

Opera Voice Instructions

Voice is currently offered in English and works on Windows 2000 and XP. A headset with a microphone is required to use Voice.

  1. Download Opera beta
  2. Enable the Voice option by selecting "Tools" > "Preferences" > "Voice" and then enable Voice.
  3. After enabling the option, you will be asked to confirm that you want to install the voice libraries. Select confirm. Voice is now available.
  4. To initiate a voice command, click the "Voice" button on the View toolbar, or press the Scroll Lock key. Then say the command, for example, "Opera reload". After issuing the command, let go of the button.
  5. A useful command to start with is "speak", which will make Opera read any selected text to you. Try it out by highlighting the text below, holding the Voice button, and saying "Opera speak". Far out in the ocean, where the water is as blue as the prettiest cornflower, and as clear as crystal, it is very, very deep; so deep, indeed, that no cable could fathom it: many church steeples, piled one upon another, would not reach from the ground beneath to the surface of the water above. There dwell the Sea King and his subjects. We must not imagine that there is nothing at the bottom of the sea but bare yellow sand. No, indeed; the most singular flowers and plants grow there; the leaves and stems of which are so pliant, that the slightest agitation of the water causes them to stir as if they had life. (Excerpt from H.C. Andersen's The Little Mermaid) For a list of voice commands, click on the voice button and say "Opera voice commands".



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#4 13 years ago

Opera 8. Does 7.54, have voice? I can't find it. Oh Well, I'll upgrade as soon as its finished. Got 8 browsers right now. Opera's good but not good enough.

1. Firefox 1.0 2. Opera 7 free with ads. 3. Internet Explorer 6 sp1 4. Mozilla 7.5

Just got these...,

5. Avant 10.0 build 035. 6. Maxthon 1.1.090 7. NCSA Mosaic 3.0

8. Netscape 7.2 (I just upgraded from version 3 :D )




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#5 13 years ago

What the hells the point? i have three...firefox, ie and opera, i only use opera really.

8 is good :nodding:




Kilobyte

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#6 13 years ago
_blitZkRiEG_What the ***** the point? i have three

Advertising the Different Web browsers to the Ignorant public. I'm the son of an owner of a computer retail/service/upgrade/whosale/recycling company. :D

I also like to see which one is actually better. I prefer Firefox simply because I use Hotmail, and Opera can't open Hotmail message windows in Tabs. Plus, I've got weather in my status bar, and a built-in Search bar, that is all encomposing (Ask Jeeves, eBay, Google, Dictionay.com, etc.

It may not be as fast or stable, or smooth running as Opera, but it has a lot more features.




Peeping Tom

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#7 13 years ago

Trunk builds ARE stable. And FF is always fast. The gecko engine is better than IEs




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#8 13 years ago

I love Opera, been using it exclusively for 2 years now. What drew me to it was it's low resources and speed not to mention the numerous other advantages it has over other browsers. Having said, I really hope they keep the code lean, clean and mean and not ruin a great app by making it bloat-ware.

An option to completely disable voice and other features from the main menu and tool-bar such as we currently have with mail and chat would be great. Another thing that I would like is to have seperate "security patches" so I wouldn't have to install a completely new build. Opera 7.54 is perfect IMO, I have no need for these new features though I'm sure I'm in the minority. :uhm:

Please Opera, don't get fat and bloated. :'(




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#9 13 years ago
TribalSunPlease Opera, don't get fat and bloated. :'(

AGREED!!!

@Peeping Tom.

That depends on your definition of stable. :D Mine is, NEVER crashes out, no matter what happens to the OS, or what extensions/themes are installed.

Opera seems to be the best, most effiecent web browser. Its just lacking a few good features. Firefox has.