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kow_ciller

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#51 11 years ago

Like I said, prices are different here. The 4850 is $20 cheaper. Not $200. For $200 more you can get a 4850X2, I dont know where you shop at but prices are not THAT different for products. As to the 1280x1024 comment. They test at that resolution because its a common res for alot of monitors so people with each resolution will have a good idea of the performance they will get with their monitor. If anything the 8800GT should perform better at a lower resolution and be closer to ATI cards since the speed of the CPU matters more at that resolution rather than the video card.




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2all above : To continue this thread in right direction (hopefully) : 1st of all this goes for you Pilla - 2k+ without keyboard, mice & headset. Still falls in the range of 2k+ USD. So basically my system cost me no more than yours. Have to admit, i did the math (Start -> Run -> calc lol) & i saw my PC's actual price. No kidding. Further more, 9950 is not as bad as 9850 & in some instances is just like your E8400, maybe in few key areas slower. Mind you i didn't overclocked it yet. Also i got the Black Edition & i did even tried to bump HT frequency & vCore (without touching multiplier). I have all time i need to overclock it, til the new Phenom FXs come out. Next section then : how 8800GT (great chip, great price :)) even though it is fast, can beat HD 4870, let alone 4850 ? 4850 is on par or even faster than 9800GTX & in CrossFire kicks arse to these G80s. As far as the trend goes Pilla, compare G80 to the one GT200 and say there is no difference in speed whatsoever. Unless you mean they on par in you-know-what-title when on Medium & 1280x960 res. Plus, 4850 not runs benchmarks (both synthetic & real-time) in just 1280x1024. 1920x1200 & all upto 2560x1600 with High or VeryHigh as far as i remember. And finally, jjz-, Pilla, kow : instead of blaming me for all the mortal sins (i got that impression from 2 of you : Pilla & jjz-) maybe count me in as well for that 3DMark Vantage score with overclocked 9950BE/E8400/QX9650.... Hope you will consider my suggestion, just remember - i know the boundaries of that Black Edition i got, yet when i saw that there was someone who got his 9950 to 3.4 & then 3.5GHz clock correspondingly on air, i thought that not everything is lost. Count me in for that Phenom overclock too. And please stop bashing me for choosing this CPU !!!! :lol:




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#53 11 years ago

Seriously, am I misunderstanding things or have people been able to reach 4+ GHz with E8400s without even adjusting their RAM settings? Not bad, not bad at all, to keep even 2844 MHz stable with my poor old 4000+ (it is old and slow, but I guess I should be happy as long as it keeps up with any game I throw at it) I had to adjust down my memory settings pretty hard, some further additional voltage might have helped, but I'm trying to be a bit careful as I don't want to buy new sticks again (availability is going down and prices up for old DDR...).

Anyway, what I wanted to say was that by the sound of it some of you really should look into those BIOS settings, the list may seem boring and endless, but some of the options are actually useful if you want to reach higher frequencies.

kow_ciller;4722190Does yours run 4.5ghz? THAT would be a 1.1ghz difference. Just because I back it down to 3.06 doesn't mean it wont run 3.4. I just turn it down because I dont like the amount of heat it throws out and the amount of voltage I need to push into it to get that frequency.

True, if it is perfectly stable at 3,4 GHz it still is even if you choose not to always run at that speed, but the exact difference in clock frequency doesn't really matter, his CPU is faster any way you put it, it is pointless to argue anything else.




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#54 11 years ago

kow_ciller;4721730You guys just wait until I get my QX9650 and second 4850. Its gonna be time for some volt-mods and 4.4ghz Quad core action. Gotta love setups for >$1000 that can play with the big boys :D[/quote]

Yep. My current setup in my sig cost about $700 all together, i didn't buy it all at once, but $700 is around what i spent getting everything.

XanLord;4721768I thought it would be over soon, but not that soon. Guess i started this thread in wrong place. But not that i'm disappointed (well maybe a little & in myself), so ashes to ashes...... :lol: Was glad to hear some of you a true overclockers & generally you all helped me to clear out that sort of thing. It's just this thread was for 3DMark scores some of you probably have (3DMark Vantage, that is).[/quote]

Hey, don't worry, i'll post some scores once i re-download 3DMark (probably 05 and 06 though). I'm getting curious to see what it will do. :beer:

[quote=kow_ciller;4721892]Yeah, I like to buy stuff a little while after it comes out so I can get some nice price drops on stuff. $1000 cpu for around $200= win :D

Yep. I got my Xeon for $170, and my 9800GTX for $130, can't complain about that.

[quote=Sgt. D. Pilla;4721996] Thinking about going to some OCZ next

You should. I love OCZ ram.

Look at the stuff i'm using, its not even their high end stuff (only cost $45), its just the basic cheap platinum ram and its running perfectly happy at over 950Mhz.

Seriously, am I misunderstanding things or have people been able to reach 4+ GHz with E8400s without even adjusting their RAM settings?

I never touched my ram setting yet and i'm running at 4.30Ghz. Its using the regular factory voltage, timings ect...

Count me in for that Phenom overclock too. And please stop bashing me for choosing this CPU !!!!

Nothing wrong with Phenoms if you ask me. People just bash them because the intels are faster at the moment, but if you look at the prices, $179 (US) IIRC for a 9950BE, you get more out of your money with one.

I might be joining the Phenom club if the Phenom II's do as well i've heard rumored (3.0Ghz Phenom II matching i7 scores, in gaming at least), or i might just stick a 9950BE in my AM2+ system and see what it'll do.




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#55 11 years ago
Apollo75;4722557Hey, don't worry, i'll post some scores once i re-download 3DMark (probably 05 and 06 though). I'm getting curious to see what it will do. :beer:[/quote] Thank god you came back. :bows: :lol: I'm getting curious to see all of you, you included, doing anything for that 3DMark score matter, but 1st & foremost Vantage. (though nothing is wrong in 05/06 either, true)
Apollo75;4722557Nothing wrong with Phenoms if you ask me. People just bash them because the intels are faster at the moment, but if you look at the prices, $179 (US) IIRC for a 9950BE, you get more out of your money with one.
Exactly !!! Plus more : i bought it after price drop, plus the store known for lowest PC parts prices, i definitely got what i wanted. Maybe because i didn't went to the Intel's direction like majority did..... Wait ! That's a thought !!! :lol: jk [quote=Apollo75;4722557]I might be joining the Phenom club if the Phenom II's do as well i've heard rumored (3.0Ghz Phenom II matching i7 scores, in gaming at least), or i might just stick a 9950BE in my AM2+ system and see what it'll do.

Phenom II's or FX's whatever they will be called : still plenty of time left til it happen (spring 2009), so that makes both of us wait for + the rest of the Phenom world. :) Though if you'll buy 9950BE, tell me how it performs with your AM2+ mainboard. BTW : I'll 1st try to update M3N-HT's BIOS once either Phenom II or FX comes out & see it how it performs in AM2+. Hope the Vantage have a decent hotfix/update to include that future CPU.




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#56 11 years ago

Huffardo;4722453

True, if it is perfectly stable at 3,4 GHz it still is even if you choose not to always run at that speed, but the exact difference in clock frequency doesn't really matter, his CPU is faster any way you put it, it is pointless to argue anything else.

I dont expect my CPU to be faster than his. Hell I paid $50 for this thing. Im merely stating that the cpu frequency difference isn't as much as he states it to be. He's going and saying that the CPU matters the most in the build which is not the case. The video card matters more these days when it comes to what you build, although if your video card is TOO slow it can be a bottleneck esp. when you bring crossfire/sli into the mix.

Also pilla, chances are you wont get too much more from that e8400. If you dont have a E0 stepping you're not going to get 4.2ghz stable no matter what ram you get for your system. It sounds like you just hit a wall. You can always try to pump more volts into your ram and put some active cooling to see if its really your ram or if its just your cpu hitting a wall (which I think it is) since 4-4.1ghz is around the max oc for c1 cpu's.




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#57 11 years ago

Perhaps I should run some benchmarks on the 2,0 GHz Celeron with integrated graphics to see how it competes with decent computers, it could be fun. =p

kow_ciller;4722690The video card matters more these days when it comes to what you build, although if your CPU is TOO slow it can be a bottleneck esp. when you bring crossfire/sli into the mix.

Can't disagree with that, wouldn't really have spent almost seven times as much on my 8800 GTS as on my 4000+ if I did.




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#58 11 years ago
kow_ciller Also pilla, chances are you wont get too much more from that e8400. If you dont have a E0 stepping you're not going to get 4.2ghz stable no matter what ram you get for your system.

Wooo! I just checked, my Xeon is the E0 stepping! :beer:

How high do you think it would go if i went all out on it?




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#59 11 years ago

You're pretty lucky with that 4.3ghz. If you put it under water or LN2 you can hit 5ghz. But on air 4.3-4.4 is pretty max




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#60 11 years ago

I just ordered some 1066 ram a moment ago. By next week I should find out if that is my bottleneck or not.

I've been looking up this chip again and some folks have hit 4.5ghz with air cooling, but it's rare. Most people can get 3.6 and 3.8 (lazy), and 4.0-4.2 seems a pretty good speed to achieve. Anyways, I'd be happy with another 150+ mhz. 4.2ghz felt like it came too easy to think that's the limit. I have an E0 stepping also.

When I ran 3DMark06 at these settings (CPU @4.2 - GPU @707/1900), I recall scoring just over 13k.