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#31 13 years ago

Only the Skulltrail MB has that capability and it's a very expensive dual quad core CPU configuration (V8 they call it). We're talking at least $500-$600 just for the MB. It will support 4x 16x but Pci EX 1.1 rather than 2.0. Just Google Skulltrail and you'll see what I mean. It's only going to be available through Intel from what I've read too so don't count on price drops. It's clearly aimed at the pro media/high-end enthusiast market. There won't even be any games for some time that will make use of it's full potential, so kinda pointless IMO. Now in case you're thinking Intel is going to bring SLI tech to their average priced MBs, don't get your hopes up. They bought chips from Nvidia specifically for this MB and plan to only offer SLI via this way.




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#32 13 years ago

If that motherboard is only offered through Intel, then it probably isn't that great for Overclocking. I have never known an Intel motherboard to do that.




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#33 13 years ago

So I should stick with the MSI or Asus if I want SLI or get an Intel if I want single PCI Express?




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#34 13 years ago

Yes, exactly.

However, If you want an Intel chipset, go with either MSI, Asus, or Gigabyte; never go with actual Intel motherboards.




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#35 13 years ago

Ok, slight problem. Got the PSU today and obviously the bracket is too small (It bends d when I slide it over the PSU) so I'm not going to use it. Also, the bottom fan I'm pretty sure won't work where it is (The cables coming out of the PSU are basically right on top of the fan so it'd hit them). The thing is I don't know how to take that fan out and the manual doesn't say. It looks like it has some plastic clips but they feel like they'll break if I undo them. It also recommends not moving that fan unless you want to make more noise. The screws are on the side where the bottom HDD bay is but they're off-aligned with the metal piece that is riveted to the case so I can't unscrew them or take the piece out. Are those plastic pieces that stick out supposed to do something? Are you recommending putting the fan in the very front of the computer between the upper HDD bay and the front of the case or are you saying to mount it on the HDD bay with the clips? The latter almost seems like the fan will be in the way of part of the motherboard. Sheesh, never thought it'd be such a pain to install a PSU into an empty case. Not only that, there are a TON of wires coming out of that PSU. Not quite sure what the PCI E (A) and PCI E (B) s are for, it has two of each (Quad SLI?). Also, what am I supposed to bolt the PSU to? EDIT: Got the fan out, it's mounted in some stupid tooless bracket that's supposed to make it easier to remove (Yeah right...). I miss when stuff required a tool, it made more sense.




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#36 13 years ago

Like I said, don't worry about the PS cage. I've seen lots of pics on that case even on review sites that show a finished build without it. There's always 4 mounting holes around the opening at the back of the case where a PS goes, that's how you mount it. Shame on you, you said you've built lots of rigs, you should know that. On the lower fan yeah if you leave it there it gets in the way, that's why I warned you you'd need to remove it. As long as you don't leave that lower comparment with no fan at all you'll be OK. You'll be able to find a thinner one that will fit better. To remove it, first slide out the lower HD cage to get at the front side of the divider it's mounted to. If you look at this pic I enlarged and sharpened you can see the hardware used to mount it I circled in red. p182fanmountwn3.jpg Those are likely some kind of plastic or rubber bolt they use to mount it. You may not be able to salvage them but it's no big deal. Do try and gently push them to the side one at a time while puling on that corner of the fan if they are tabs though. If those are plastic bolts you'll have to cut them off with a sharp knife or something. Generally you only need to score one side of the bolt good with a razor blade or box cutter then the ends will snap off. For mounting it in the upper HD bay, Antec actually sells some pretty good rubber bolts in packs of 4 on their site for mounting fans. You could probably also just use standard metal fan screws. The rubber ones keep the vibration low and noise down though. Where I meant to mount it is at the front of the upper HD bay. Here's a pic showing the front of that bay with cage removed. Note that you need to remove the black plastic bracket blocking the vent from mounting a fan to it which may be part of the HD cage guide rails. From what I can see there looks to be screw holes for the rails above and below holding the assembly in place. hddbays2rt8.jpg There may also be clips on the part covering the vent that clip through the vent, so don't go prying on it hard after unscrewing it. Gently push on the plastic tabs if there are any at the front of the vent, which should be accessible once you remove the vent's filter. There might be a tool in your case's hardware kit for removing the screws holding the guide rail bracket. If not get one that you know will fit the screws and be short enough fit inside the HD bay, like a Philips stubby or whatever type fastener it is. Don't worry about Pci Ex A and B, just use one blue one (6 pin) for each card if you get 8800GTs. Don't worry about the case either, sounds like you're just forgetting some basics, but if you've built rigs before like you said it's nothing you shouldn't be able to handle. BTW, if that lower fan is attached to some kind of plastic cage, bracket etc, remove it and just mount the fan itself in the upper bay. Just don't forget to replace it with a thinner one like I said, preferably one of equal CFM or at least one that's 4 pin so you can adjust it's speed to equal the CFM. If there is a cage or bracket for it and the fan itself has no mounting holes though, you'll have to use the cage or bracket to mount it.




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#37 13 years ago

Ah, lol forgot. It didn't look like there were screwholes on the back of the case where the PSU went. I've also never dealt with a PSU that had this many big thick cables. All the PSUs I've had have skinny wires that aren't wrapped so it looks like this thing has a lot more cables than my old ones. Don't forget also, I have nothing in the case and no hardware to hook it up to so that's probably part of my confusion. EDIT: I've mounted the fan where that black bracket is in the picture. You don't have to remove the glide on things, but if I had to they're with Philips screws. The fan isn't actually that big, but the tooless installer makes it thicker. If I put it in the bottom without the tooless thing it would probably be fine. Will that bottom compartment be ok without a fan in it? I could always mount that fan in the very front at the very bottom if so.




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#38 13 years ago

Another problem, none of the screw holes for the PSU line up in the back. How am I supposed to mount it?




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#39 13 years ago

OK, great that you didn't have to mess with all that bracket removing in the upper HD bay. I couldn't tell by the pics if you'd have enough room without doing it. Since the fan was removable from it's bracket you may have enough room to mount it in the lower compartment depending on it's thickness. I'm sure there are thinner fans though. It's your call, I can only guess as to how much room you'd have for your PS cables with that one by itself without the bracket. Somethiong like a Sythe Flex might make things a lot easier down there. BTW, you did mount the fan blowing inward right? After looking at the close up pic of the back of your PS on Newegg's site I think you'll be OK on the screw holes. It won't be best case scenario but it should be plenty adequate. For the lower screws there seem to be holes in the right place on the case. The upper two look as if they'll require using a couple of the slots machined into the case. They purposely make the mounting area like that due to various screw patterns that PSs use. This is how you'll probably be mounting it: p182psholeslg2.jpg Just put the PS in and let it rest on the rubber pads at the bottom of the PS area. Align it with the lower holes and put those screws in most of the way but leave them loose for positioning. Then look to see if those slots I referreed to line up with the PS holes. I think you'll find it will mount allright that way. Note that if the case didn't come with a rubber gasket at the back of the PS hole that goes between the case and PS, look to see if the PS did and use it instead if the case doesn't have one. It's not a critical part but nice to have and can deaden vibration noise.




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#40 13 years ago

The problem was, the PS came with a rubber thing and that was making it not line up. I had to take it off, however I kinda forced the bracket over the top of the PSU. I have all the four screws lined up and three of the four bracket screws in. The bottom tray you see has little rubberized strips and the bracket has some all around it (hence why it didn't want to fit). I may try taking the bracket back off and just leaving the PSU in without using it. Just from my observations though, I don't know what I am going to do with all those cables. They're going to be in the way no matter where I put them because most of them have several plugs on each wire, fairly close together. I cut off a zip tie that was very close to the PSU where the wires came out but now I'm wondering if I should've left it (I'm afraid I'll tear up the wires or something moving them around). I'll try moving that fan down to the bottom tomorrow, since nothing else is moving air down at the bottom now other than the PSU. I have to clean the stuff up as I'm going to sleep and stupid me decided to just do it in my bedroom because I thought it would take no time (But I've never delt with a case or PSU like these before!). Makes me kinda wish I bought a full tower, but I'm sure it'll be fine once I get the rest of my components bolted in.