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#1 10 years ago

I just bought Gears of War for my computer today, after figuring out the freakish Windows Live thingy i started playing, but almost immediately after starting the game my computer crashed and I had to do a CMOS reset. I assumed that the computer overheated as it is overclocked. I have a Core 2 Duo 2.2Ghz > 2.8Ghz, 4Gb 800Mhz ram and an overclocked 8800GT 512mb. The funny part though is that none of those components get too hot. It's the ram, which by touch is horrendously hot. I'm wondering what causes it, and what solutions may be. In the bios i noticed that I have my FSB ratio set to Auto, which after the processor overclock results in about 1022 FSB, as opposed to the original 800. When I change the FSB ratio to 1:1.6 the number goes down to 805, however my computer refuses to turn on. I assume that I accidentally had my RAM overclocked as well which causes it to overheat, but I would love to know exactly how to fix it.




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#2 10 years ago

That sounds like the problem. RAM sticks come with coolers these days, and seem to once again match evenly with the front-side bus.

To fix it, you will have to find a good balance between ratios. One that keeps the RAM/FSB under 800mhz. I would assume that 805mhz is just such an awkard frequency, that the RAM can't work with it.

Try dropping it down to 2.4ghz, or 2.6ghz...

Also, you'll want to keep an eye on the voltage, your overclocking could be overpowering the RAM. Which can also make it overheat as well.

You may also want to check the "timings". They may have gotten out of whack, try setting the timings higher. (say from 3, to 5.) The RAM may not be stable at higher clock speeds, and its regular timings.

This would be why I don't even bother with overclocking anymore. That and the lack of any real air-conditioning,...




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#3 10 years ago

Just out of curiosity, Is there a program that makes all this a slightly smaller pain in the ass? Anything that will check or recommend a good voltage, allow changing the FSB without being in bios and such, or at the very least something to check the stability without having to crash the system on a game, anything really that won't have me making wild guesses and rebooting my computer for the next two hours.




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#4 10 years ago

There are a few. I can't remember their names. CPUZ, Everest???

Anyway, they don't work with all motherboards. What is the brand, and model of your mobo?




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#5 10 years ago

MSI P35 Platinum




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#6 10 years ago

You didn't raise the ram voltage did you?

Does your board have a option to limit the ram speed? Or a option to set it at a lower clock speed?

If say you have DDR2-800, if your ram doesn't overclock well and if your board has the option, you can set it down to DDR2-667, that way whenever you raise the FSB, the ram speed its increasing from 800Mhz, but from 667Mhz instead.

A good program to test CPU/Ram stability is the "Torture Test" in Prime95. (google it). If your system can pass a few hours of that while overclocked, it's more the likely to be pretty stable doing anything else.




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#7 10 years ago

Well, In the end I downclocked my processor to 2.6Ghz, and left my ram slightly below 800mhz FSB. The computer still overheated, so now i'm unsure as to what exactly the problem is.




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#8 10 years ago

What's your idle/load temps for your CPU and 8800?




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#9 10 years ago

If RAM is overheating, you get errors. Bluescreens. Failed installs or fracked up file copies. Rarely does it result in a crash that forces you to reset the BIOS to default.

So make sure you disable the option to reboot on error (uncheck the box; it's in msconfig if memory serves--someone running Windows ATM care to confirm that?).

Now, for something completely different, obtain an run memtest86+ through at least one complete loop. 24 hours is better. If you get errors, you've got a RAM issue. No errors means... something else.

Prime95 is another very good stress tester, but introduces possible software problems since it's run from Windows (memtest86+ loads directly on boot). The nice thin about Prime95 is that, like memtest86+, the stress tests have a known "good" result. Any deviation means errors, and you can skew the tests to be more processor or RAM intesive, or a blend of both.

Assuming one of these shows RAM issues, put a fan on it. That's all you can do, as memory runs hotter now that it used to. Some modules are quite happy below +2V. Some won't run without at least that much juice, and they can get toasty. If you're having the memory errors with your memory clocked @ SPD programming (run these tests @ default settings first), then the modules are fracked. Otherwise, it probably was due to the overclock, or some problem with the settings. When you changed the strap and got no boot... that's more than likely a bug in the BIOS.




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#10 10 years ago

Well, I ran memtest86+ overnight, and the result was 14 Passes and 0 Errors. I suppose that means my ram is just fine, that's good. That does mean the error is probably another overclock in my system, Ill try running the game with my system at default and see how that works out,

Update: I tried running the game with my system completely at default, procesor, ram, graphics card. I played the game for ten minutes at most, maybe five and again I got the blue screen of death and crash. I'm really stumped now because if it isn't my computer getting overheated, what on earth could it be?