GTX 1060 Officially Announced - MSRP $249 ($299 Founders Edtion) + Rumored Leaked Benchmarks 7 replies

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#1 2 years ago

EDIT ON 7/7/16:

The card has been officially announced. $249 MSRP, $299 Founders Edition (limited run, only from Nvidia so not the same as FE for the 1070/1080).

Hard launch is July 19th so not long to wait to get performance numbers. Cards are already in the hands of reviewers.

Official Nvidia Page

PCPer Article

As for performance, that's yet to be seen. Nvidia is saying it's a "980 for every gamer" but the TFLOP performance puts it slightly below a 980, though the architecture improvements could make up for that.

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Found this on Guru3d (original source is a non English site, Xfastest)

If they are true this puts it just above the RX480 at stock clocks. These are synthetic benchmarks so real world gaming performance will obviously vary on the game. No numbers on DX12 performance yet. This also on drivers that don't have official support for the 1060 yet.

No price either but rumor is ~$250.

3DMark Firestrike Ultra scores 3014 points while the Radeon RX 480 was scoring around 2750 points. The GeForce GTX 1060 scores 11225 points in Firestrike Performance while the Radeon RX 480 was scoring 10800 points in several 3DMark (reference clocks).

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#2 2 years ago

WCCFTech goes into a bit more detail about it.

Also, no SLI connectors on this card. That either means no SLI in general or they feel a card at this level could do it all via PCI-E (like AMD does now with Crossfire)


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#3 2 years ago

I didn't know AMD didn't use bridges anymore.  It really has been too long since I've looked at cards.


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#4 2 years ago

Yeah, AMD hasn't used a crossfire bridge for a few generations.

Nvidia says it's still needed (at least of the high end and high resolutions) but on lower end cards they seem to either be getting rid of it completely or doing it over PCIE.

If I had to guess I'd say they aren't allowing it at all on the 1060.


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#5 2 years ago

of course they won't allow it, 1080 sales would suffer. besides, both sli and crossfire are beginning to look like things of the past, all that's needed is developers using the multiple gpu support in dx12.

dx12. 1060, half of 1080 with smaller bus, half of dx12 performance of 1080... i'm honestly waiting for the dx12 hitman benchmark of this card. either it'll perform better than expected, and that would mean there's something limiting performance of the higher end nvidia cards, or it'll perform at the level of 970, and that will be laughable.




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#6 2 years ago

The card has been officially announced. $249 MSRP, $299 Founders Edition (limited run, only from Nvidia so not the same as FE for the 1070/1080).

Hard launch is July 19th so not long to wait to get performance numbers. Cards are already in the hands of reviewers.

Official Nvidia Page

PCPer Article

As for performance, that's yet to be seen. Nvidia is saying it's a "980 for every gamer" but the TFLOP performance puts it slightly below a 980, though the architecture improvements could make up for that.

I do find it amusing (but not surprising at all) unic0rn that you tout the RX480 (which is only $10 cheaper MSRP on the 8GB RX480) as being a great card for performance between a 970 and 980 yet this card you'd call "laughable" for being in the same area.


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#7 2 years ago

I purchased a 970 for just about $300 about 8 months ago and that was a bit lower than the average price. Technology's moving. 




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#8 2 years ago
"RadioActiveLobster"I do find it amusing (but not surprising at all) unic0rn that you tout the RX480 (which is only $10 cheaper MSRP on the 8GB RX480) as being a great card for performance between a 970 and 980 yet this card you'd call "laughable" for being in the same area.

i do find your lack of reading with comprehension amusing. i was speaking about dx12. pointing a finger at a single (so far) game, that shows what may happen in the future when developers will learn how to use that api properly. and in dx12, rx480 is hardly between 970 and 980. if 1060 will get half of 1080 performance in dx12, it will be laughable, because that's a level 970 is reaching. of course, 980 is way better - whole 9fps better - and whole 13fps worse than rx480.

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but that's where tflops performance and architecture comes in, rx480's tflops performance is right in the middle between 980 and 980 ti, while framerate/tflops ratio in this case is better than for nvidia. so yeah, compare them by prices, when their dx12 performance (which is all that will matter in a year) isn't even in the same ballpark.

also, architecture improvements? lets play a game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_900_Series

compare the tflops performance of 980 ti with 1060/1070/1080. when you multiply 980 ti's framerate in hitman in dx12 by the tflops performance ratio between 1070 and 980 ti, you'll get 1070 framerate. same with 1080 - actual 1080 framerate is a bit lower. my guess is 1060 will get around 58fps, which is right below 980. now compare that with rx480, compare their prices and imagine that in a year, most games will show such performance ratio between polaris and pascal cards. one hell of a deal from nvidia, right?

and if you think that's biased, compare maxwell/pascal framerates in witcher 3 with their tflops performance. for 1070, the relation is perfect, while 1080 gets slightly less fps than expected. now, if we'll optimistically assume that there's something limiting higher end cards like 1080, and that in the lower end the framerate/tflops ratio is better (which, to a degree, seems to be the case), with 980 ti - 1070 being nvidia's sweet spot for that ratio, then, assuming 1060 will gain as much as 1080 loses, we can predict it'll have at most 65fps in hitman in dx12. 3fps higher than 980 - so yeah, you can count that as an improvement - but at the same time, whole 10fps lower than rx480, which costs less. so yeah, when it comes to next generation (dx12) performance from nvidia's 'next generation' architecture, it is laughable.

of course, there are more factors to consider. for example GP/s performance doesn't seem to influence the results, with rx480 having much worse performance in that regard even than 970. GT/s - that's another thing. here rx480 sits right below 980 ti, and above 980. 1060 - below 980. so i would say it's probably a combination of raw tflops performance and GT/s, with memory bandwidth being another factor - because nothing else may limit 1080. 980 ti has higher memory performance than 1080 because of 384bit bus width, while 1060 has 192bit bus width, so there's that. bottom line, expect anything between 58 and 65fps in hitman in dx12 - at first, i was expecting 65fps or slightly less, but looking at GT/s and memory bandwidth, i guess it'll be a success if 1060 reaches 58fps.

and don't get me wrong, i understand people counting on 1060. sadly, it's the same maxwell++ as higher end models, only - more or less - cut in half. there's simply no way it'll perform better in dx12 than rx480. it never stood a chance - which is a bad thing for the market, but at the same time, it's a fact.

and as for MSRP? i'll believe it when i'll see it. in case of 1070/1080, everything sits at FE's prices or higher, at least here. limited run means only that people hate their FE versions with passion (and for a reason), so those would simply not sell. it doesn't mean anyone will stick to the MSRP.