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random_soldier1337

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#1 8 years ago

A while back ago when I had made a thread about upgrading/buying a new computer, I was told to focus on the CPU because several current gen and/or next gen PC games would be more CPU intensive than GPU intensive. I don't think it meant to not pay attention to GPU. Just that CPU held the most importance in all the considerations for components in a gaming computer and GPU was to be considered after that. Is there any truth to this? Even if both hold nearly the same importance, why would such a statement be made? Are graphics or parts of graphics as well as other calculations being switched partially to CPU? Or would the reason be that are most of the calculations CPU related?

Also, I was just browsing Intel, Nvidia and AMD websites. I came upon a few things that I had questions about.

(i) What's the difference between the regular processors and the ones w/ vPro? Like theirs the i5 and the i7 and then there is the i5 vPro and i7 vPro. How is one any better than the other? Or even different?

(ii)Which is better:GTX285M or GTS360M?

(iii)Are there any laptop models that feature anything beyond the mobile HD 4000 series? Because I came upon several Series listed for mobile use on the amd website such as the mobility 5800/5700/5600/5400,etc., series.

(iv)Out of all the mobile GPUs which one is currently the best in the mobile market.




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#2 8 years ago

1. i5 vPro. - Google Search

2. GTS360M review - Google Search

3. not yet.

4. 4870x2 mobile

moral of the story. google is the easiest.




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#3 8 years ago

For question 3, the ASUS G73 is going to be released on the 15th (apparently) which will use a mobility Radeon 5870. As far as I can see, though, nothing differentiates the mobility 5870 from the mobility 4870 apart from memory bandwidth and clocks.

Well, 2 GTX280Ms in SLI are more powerful than a Mobility 4870X2; and seeing as this is notebooks we're talking about, I would consider the 280Ms as a single 'thing' rather than 2 cards.




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#4 8 years ago

I say i7 and a motherboard with 6 slots for DDR3 ram, and SLI (2 , 3 vid cards) will be the best 5 years from now.




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#5 8 years ago
I would consider the 280Ms as a single 'thing' rather than 2 cards.

Why are you specifically mentioning that? Is there some property in them that eliminates glitches unlike with most multi-gpu systems or something?




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#6 8 years ago
Why are you specifically mentioning that? Is there some property in them that eliminates glitches unlike with most multi-gpu systems or something?

Are you insinuating that GTX280Ms in SLI have some inherent problem due to multi-GPU systems that is not in a system with a Mobility 4870X2, another multi-GPU system?




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#7 8 years ago

No.... I'm insinuating the opposite. Or asking if it is that anyway.




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#8 8 years ago

No, both have the same problems that are inherent with any multi-GPU setup, namely micostuttering. What he means is that a 4870X2 is just two 4870s with lower clocks, so he's counting 280 SLI as a single thing for a fair comparison. It's also the fact that mobile cards operate differently to their desktop counterparts.




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#9 8 years ago

microstuttering is a thing of the past and a thing of multi-gpu lore. I have NEVER experienced microstuttering after CF x1950s, CF 3870s were fine, cf 4850s, and cf 4890s all with no problems. I dont know about nvidia's situation, but I'm fairly certain they have it fixed as well.

And the SLI 280 vs. 4870x2 is NOT the same thing. the SLI is in fact two separate cards, while the 4870x2 is one card since it is on the same PCB, if you want to go that route you could always compare two 4870x2's against SLI 280s since that would be two cards against two cards.




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#10 8 years ago

kow_ciller;5238652microstuttering is a thing of the past and a thing of multi-gpu lore. I have NEVER experienced microstuttering after CF x1950s, CF 3870s were fine, cf 4850s, and cf 4890s all with no problems. I dont know about nvidia's situation, but I'm fairly certain they have it fixed as well.[/quote]

I can't attest to ATI cards, but I've got it with 9600GTs. That's the only SLI setup I've ever used. Some games were worse than others though. I didn't get any in UE3 games, but Crysis was a pain. Warhead was surprisingly smooth though.

[QUOTE=kow_ciller;5238652]And the SLI 280 vs. 4870x2 is NOT the same thing. the SLI is in fact two separate cards, while the 4870x2 is one card since it is on the same PCB, if you want to go that route you could always compare two 4870x2's against SLI 280s since that would be two cards against two cards.

Did I say it was? I merely said it was a fairer comparison; two GPUs versus two GPUs, especially since it's the best mobile solution of either company.




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