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Silverstone Raven RV02 (lowest price seen $163 USD) [COLOR=Red]Techgage - SilverStone Raven RV02 Full-Tower[/COLOR]

Features stacked cooling via turning the MB 90 degrees to make the air flow straight up and out the top. Three filtered 180mm intake fans at the bottom combined with one 120mm exhaust fan and vent holes and 8 expansion plate slots in the top provide a swiftly exhausting positive pressure design that resists warm air pooling inside the case and unwanted dust being sucked in through small crevices. The PSU mounts with it's intake fan against a filter at the back of the case and the exhaust fan at the top. There's plenty of room behind the MB tray for all the cables and it has a nice large cutout for accessing CPU backplates. I/O port cabling is routed off the top under and out the back of a vented cowling.

Gigabyte EX58A-Extreme (no price mentioned yet) [COLOR=Red]GIGABYTE already has SATA 6 Gbit/s on its mobos :: TweakTown[/COLOR]

An upgraded version of the popular EX58 with four 6Gb/s SATA III ports and one eSATA/USB (powered eSATA) port.

I was hoping for an X58 MB with the Hydra 200 late '09 or early 2010, but it appears the first Hydra 200 MBs will be P55 1156 and the only X58/Hydra 200 I've seen is the Intel Smackover 2, which won't be out for a while.

I consider going with a P55/ i7 860 to be quite a tradeoff vs getting an X58/i7 920, just to get the Hydra technology, which isn't even proven yet. Besides, I'm not sure I'll be using SLI even as an upgrade path as powerful as the single GPU cards are getting.

Seagate Barracuda XT (lowest price seen, $331 USD) [COLOR=Red]Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB SATA 6 Gbit/s Hard Drive Performance Review Introduction :: TweakTown[/COLOR]

Features a whopping 2TB capacity with 64MB cache, 6GB/s SATA III interface, and 347 Gbits/inch2 ave Areal density. Tests already show it beating a Velociraptor 300GB HDD, though not quite at the claimed average speed specs yet. This could be due to possible needed firmware tweaks, but still, the speed is great considering the cost per performance/capacity.

These parts just struck me as a nice start on a build. The case only has 3 HDD mounts, but the Barracuda XT kinda makes that a non issue. Even Gigabyte's MB's having less room between the CPU and DIMMs is a non issue with this case because the way it's designed, you can easily fit even the fat Prolimatech Megahalems without problems clearing the RAM modules. Putting the CPU HS fan on the exhaust side is still very efficient due to having a 180mm intake fan not far below the HS and the fins being oriented in line with the vertical, hot-air-rises design.




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#2 8 years ago

Not a bad start. You might want to look at the rampage II extreme though for a motherboard. It is said to be the absolute most solid board for AIR/ water.




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I'm liking the case. A lot. My only concern is that you'd have to clean out the bottom dust filters once a week if it were on carpet. Though that's not so much a hassle, you can just slide them out. With my 902, you have to remove the whole HDD cage...




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#4 8 years ago

I'm loving that harddrive. I've looked at the Raven V2 before though. From what I remember, it won't hold newer cards. I think the limit is just over 10.5", and the 5870 is 11 (I think).




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kow_ciller;5055023Not a bad start. You might want to look at the rampage II extreme though for a motherboard. It is said to be the absolute most solid board for AIR/ water.[/QUOTE]Except like I said above, I want SATA III support, preferrably via built in ports vs the controller cards some are using like the Asrock P55 board, which some are speculating may not in fact be a full 6Gb/s capable. I looked in their manual and nowhere does it even say SATA III.

Besides, I'm not really worried about the EX58A being solid for speed or cooling. Gigabyte MBs OC plenty well and in fact have pretty high memory standards to begin with. They also have a very nice hybrid heat pipe design that allows you to use WC on the NB chip if you want.

Keep in mind though I'm not a big fan of extreme OCs or WC, so the above points are rather moot. Feature for feature I think for moderate OCers the Gigabyte boards offer more. The higher memory standard and 2oz copper on the power and ground layers to me are more important features.

Mr. Pedantic;5055034I'm liking the case. A lot. My only concern is that you'd have to clean out the bottom dust filters once a week if it were on carpet. Though that's not so much a hassle, you can just slide them out. With my 902, you have to remove the whole HDD cage...

At first I was opposed to bottom mounted intake fans, esp on carpet, but the feet are tall and I plan to place a solid surface under it over the carpet. Maybe something like a 1/4" thick piece of polycarbonate cut to size at Tap Plastics, whom are nearby to me. The filters don't just slide out if you mean without removing anything. You do have to pop off the top cowling and undo two thumbscrews to pull off the side panel first, but that's trivial really.

I'm more concerned about the MB tray being mounted on the left and access panel on the right. I'm used to putting my tower on the floor to the right. I suppose I could put it on the left, but it may make routing the mouse cord a bit trickier. I'm pretty sure if need be the mouse cord could be run out the front of the top cowling of the case though, which should be a shorter route.[QUOTE=The_Daedalus;5055042]I'm loving that harddrive. I've looked at the Raven V2 before though. From what I remember, it won't hold newer cards. I think the limit is just over 10.5", and the 5870 is 11 (I think).

The HDD tests I linked to on the Barracuda XT were unfortunately conducted on a high end (eg: very pricey) LSI 6 Gb/s controller card with lots of cache, so it no doubt skewed the write speed results in the XT's favor. Hopefully there will soon be XT tests done using one or two of the new MBs with SATA III ports to yield more real world consumer price range results.

As for GPU clearance, I know many reviewers have been stating Silverstone recommends no longer than 10.5" GPUs, but it really depends whether your GPU's power sockets are on the side like most of the new ones, or at the end. In fact the new 5000 series ATI cards have air intake ducts at the end instead of power sockets, which I think would even better facilitate this case design.

Another example of how lack of GPU clearance is overstated is one reviewer claimed he could not use the lowest (or should I say farthest left. LOL) Pci-Ex slot for a dual slot GPU, yet he A) didn't mount the HDD cage as recommended by Silverstone, and B) was not using right angle cables on his HDD. It is intended for the user to remove the 3 plastic faceplates in front of the HDD cage, then permanently remove the steel 5.25 bay knockouts at the front of the cage, which allows you to then mount the cage in a more forward position. This also allows you to remove the HDD cage through the front of the case for adding/removing HDDs after the MB is installed. Sure, it is rather strange Silverstone would even put 5.25 knockouts in front of the HDD cage, but none the less, they can be removed to free up space.

(EDITED) Just spoke to Silverstone and they say that 11" is a more realistic dimension on GPUs that will fit, IF the power sockets are on the side. Most older GPUs that have the power sockets on the end are no more than 10.5" anyway, so I see it as a non issue. It really depends on how Nvidia places their power sockets on the GT300 series though. I can't imagine them not seeing side mounted connectors being the way to go though. The guy was quick to point out like I did above that the 5870 fits nicely and works well with the case due to air intakes vs power sockets being at the end.

I also suggested they manufacture the case without the knockouts at the front of the HDD cage and put the cage in the forward position at the factory to avoid consumers/reviewers not taking full advantage of space and HDD cage removal. He was very thankful for my input. These guys listen and it shows. Many complained of their FT01 being very hard to remove filters from, the RV02 is a huge step in the right direction.

The only thing he was not quite sure of is why the MB tray is on the left of the case and the access panel on the right, which was my only stumbling block on understanding the design. He speculated if it might have something to do with the case's power, reset, USB, LED and front audio port cables reaching easier.