Sony Blocks Fake Controllers, Warns of Explosions ----- Kotaku 9 replies

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[COLOR=lemonchiffon]“[COLOR=lemonchiffon]Fake PlayStation 3 controllers might be cheap, but that doesn't change them from being totally phony. Sony is doing what it can to render counterfeit PS3 controllers utterly useless.[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]On Sony's consumer alerts page, the company states that counterfeit PS3 controllers have been "discovered in the market".[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]The page reads: "SCEA advises consumers to be cautious when buying PlayStation 3 Wireless Controllers from uncertain sources as the quality, reliability and safety of counterfeit products is uncertain, and in some cases, may be dangerous." According to Sony, some counterfeit controllers could "ignite or explode".[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Continuing, Sony states that it "does not support continued functionality of counterfeit or unlicensed controllers in system software updates and these devices may cease to function in the future because of system software updates."[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]The recent firmware update, 3.50, apparently rectifies the problem of counterfeit controllers. "3.50 blocks unlicensed controllers only, so should have no effect on licensed controllers," a Sony spokesperson tells Kotaku. "I would recommend anyone with issues with their licensed controllers to contact customer care."[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Fake PS3 controllers are not new and have been available for some time now. Sony is not referring to licensed third-party controllers.” – Kotaku Instructions: Use link if possible [/COLOR][/COLOR]




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#2 8 years ago

Explode or ignite? :S

Sheesh, what are they making the PCBs out of? Thermite?


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#3 8 years ago

I read that a while ago and thought it was funny. "If it doesn't have a Sony logo it might just be a fragmentation grenade".




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#4 8 years ago

Psh...wow. Now they're fear mongering. I have no respect for Sony - just because they created the PS3 doesn't mean they can boss you around and tell you what you can and can't plug in after buying it.




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#5 8 years ago

This is probably a reasonable solution in Japan, and China. As that area has a lot of counterfeiters.

Imagine if you were in Japan, and you saw some cheap Wireless Playstation 3 controllers. You bought one, and took it home. Unfortunately, the wireless controller had a cheap battery. Batteries are fragmentation grenades. http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article6736587.ece

These controllers look 99% identical to name brand Playstation 3 controllers. They are probably modified Playstation 1/2 controllers.

So FancyPants, it isn't funny, in some regions it is a reality. Fortunately it is not common in the western world. Unlicensed controllers are, which Sony isn't bothered about blocking.

If Sony just wanted to get rid of non-licensed vendors, I would have expected them to wait until the next hardware cycle. Having licensed controllers suddenly stop functioning is not good for either Sony, or its licensed partners.




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Monster_user;5402642This is probably a reasonable solution in Japan, and China. As that area has a lot of counterfeiters.

Imagine if you were in Japan, and you saw some cheap Wireless Playstation 3 controllers. You bought one, and took it home. Unfortunately, the wireless controller had a cheap battery. Batteries are fragmentation grenades. Apple tried to silence owner of exploding iPod with gagging order - Times Online

These controllers look 99% identical to name brand Playstation 3 controllers. They are probably modified Playstation 1/2 controllers.

So FancyPants, it isn't funny, in some regions it is a reality. Fortunately it is not common in the western world. Unlicensed controllers are, which Sony isn't bothered about blocking.

If Sony just wanted to get rid of non-licensed vendors, I would have expected them to wait until the next hardware cycle. Having licensed controllers suddenly stop functioning is not good for either Sony, or its licensed partners.

I don't know what kind of stuff they sell in Japan, but if the most dangerous part of that controllers is the battery then the statement that it may explode is most likely an exaggeration. It may burn, but even that probably isn't very likely. Its not like those things are powered by car batteries.




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#7 8 years ago

Well, anyone buying that kind of cheap tad is doing it for kicks or to give away to DR. Ashens!

MrFancypants;5402616I read that a while ago and thought it was funny. "If it doesn't have a Sony logo it might just be a fragmentation grenade".

Lol.




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#8 8 years ago
NAB622;5402620Psh...wow. Now they're fear mongering. I have no respect for Sony - just because they created the PS3 doesn't mean they can boss you around and tell you what you can and can't plug in after buying it.

Oh but they can. Their EULA says they can.

From time to time, SCE may provide updates, upgrades or services to your PS3™ system to ensure it is functioning properly in accordance with SCE guidelines or provide you with new offerings. Some services may be provided automatically without notice when you are online, and others may be available to you through SCE's online network or authorized channels. Without limitation, services may include the provision of the latest update or download of new release that may include security patches, new technology or revised settings and features which may prevent access to unauthorized or pirated content, or use of unauthorized hardware or software in connection with the PS3™ system. Additionally, you may not be able to view your own content if it includes or displays content that is protected by authentication technology. Some services may change your current settings, cause a loss of data or content, or cause some loss of functionality.

So far, Sony has removed the Other OS installation option and restricted what kinds of hardware you can plug into your USB ports in response to hacking fears. Now a controller hack has appeared, so Sony's next move will be in response to this.

Their previous EULA gave them the right to add, modify, and remove features through firmware updates. They changed it on firmware update 3.30 I think.

In fact:

You do not have any ownership rights or interests in the System Software. All intellectual property rights therein belong to SCE and its licensors, and all use or access to such System Software shall be subject to the terms of this Agreement and all applicable copyright and intellectual property laws.

SYSTEM SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT (Version 1.3) FOR THE PlayStation®3 SYSTEM

In short, you just own the box, but not what makes it work.

The only time the EULA becomes void is if Sony (or any company) does something that is allowed in their EULA but is in violation of any laws. Sony may have done that with the OtherOS removal by possibly violating California consumer protection laws and they're currently being sued because of this.

On topic: Those things won't explode. It's an exaggeration.




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#9 8 years ago
MrFancypants;5402750I don't know what kind of stuff they sell in Japan, but if the most dangerous part of that controllers is the battery then the statement that it may explode is most likely an exaggeration. It may burn, but even that probably isn't very likely. Its not like those things are powered by car batteries.

Assuming it's being powered by a Lithium Ion Battery then it can burn or explode. (burning is slightly incorrect, it's hydrogen blowing out of the escape valve under sufficient pressure to self ignite in an attempt to prevent an explosion when the battery is in thermal runaway) If it's in a sealed unit with nowhere for the gasses to go then when the battery fails it could have an effect similar to a fragmentation grenade with the added danger of hydrofluoric acid poisoning from any shards that hit you.

As you say though, it's the battery not the controller. From what's posted here If I had to make a guess, i'd say the issue is overcharging of a secondary Li-ion cell without adequate safety measures. Does the controller charge the battery though? The only games console I have is an N64. =p




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#10 8 years ago
NAB622;5402620Psh...wow. Now they're fear mongering. I have no respect for Sony - just because they created the PS3 doesn't mean they can boss you around and tell you what you can and can't plug in after buying it.

They can't boss you around per se, but they can monitor what goes into their consoles. And those fake controllers are BS, I've used one before at Gamestop, a lot of them have things to enhance gameplay in stupid ways.