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#1 8 years ago

My two current mice are a standard Dynex optical for most of my gaming and a Logitech Trackman that I use pretty much exclusively to play Borderlands because I my Dynex is too low end to snipe with. I've looked around, but can't find official specs as to what DPI either of them are. So, I really have no basis for comparison as to what various DPI ratings feel like.

I'm basically looking for something that will allow me the ability to quickly run and gun. But also easily switch the DPI on the fly for precision sniping. In addition to asking what DPI settings are optimal, what game sensitivity settings are optimal? I'm guessing that if your playing at a high DPI your going to want to lower the game sensitivity settings to as low as possible? But higher DPI would also have the drawback of making it harder to aim while moving, wouldn't it?

Now, I've read some threads on mice and on DPI. Most people seem to think the greater the DPI the better. But others disagree.

Basically, I'm looking for a gaming mouse that's a step above the bottom of the barrel mouse I'm using now. But, I think it's kind of silly to spent more than $50 on a mouse.

I was having trouble deciding between the Microsoft SideWinder X5 and the Ideazon Red 1000.

But I've also heard good things about the Rude-200 Fierce. But, I don't really like the idea of the two side buttons being on a single teder-toder style axis, I'd prefer them to be separate.

What exactly is the benefit of laser over optical besides being able to track on glass? Wouldn't a 2000 DPI optical be just as good as a 2000 DPI laser?

Which mouse do you think would be better? Or are they all equally kind of crappy? I noticed the SideWinder has a minimum 400 DPI while the Red1000's minimum is 800, 2x the amount. What difference does that make? Will I really want to be using 400 DPI at all for any purposes?

[COLOR=Plum]SideWinder X5 Pros vs cons:[/COLOR] Pros: - Each DPI setting (400, 800, 2000) has it's own button. For super fast switching between sniping and running/gunning in game. - Is said to be one of the biggest mice out there. I have a tendency to like big peripherals. I didn't even think the original Xbox controller was that bad, minus the less than optimal button placement Cons: - Doesn't go up to 3200 DPI like the Red1000 - Side buttons look like they'd be weird to press, but they might not be [COLOR=Plum] Ideazon Red1000 pros vs cons:[/COLOR] Pros: - Has DPI that goes up to 3200 - Side buttons look more comfortable than the SideWinder X5's, but they might not actually be Neutral: - Five DPI settings (800, 1200, 1600, 2000, 3200) as opposed to three might be a lot of switch between on the fly during frantic FPS action Cons: - Only has one DPI switch button instead of the standard two. So I'd have to switch between every setting to get to each end of the spectrum. Which might get annoying during frantic gameplay




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#2 8 years ago

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#3 8 years ago

To be honest the best you can do is grope the mouse around a bit to see which one is most comfortable for you. To be honest I'd avoid the rude, since by the way it looks like, it's a generic design that's being employed by a number of companies - I've seen it at least 3 different times till date. And that mouse is relatively shoddy. Same goes for the ideazon.

As configs go, probably the best mice for customisation are Steelseries one - you can have two specific CPI values defined to a single 1 and swap them on the fly. Plus they're driver less which is a plus.

The ikari is a bit bigger, more palmy, wth Xai(kinzu) line being ambi dex and somewhat smaller.

Other decent mice (though I don't like them) are razers, MS habu, some logitech mice - after that there's a few gems here and there, but usually the quality goes down a lot.

As to higher CPI - it's somewhat problematic - you really rarely need more than about 800. Though your best bet is to set ingame sensitivities to the lowest and adjust mouse CPI until it's comfortable.




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#4 8 years ago
Serio;5386780moved to Tech Discussion.[/QUOTE] Sorry about that. I saw the "no gaming related issued" and figured that discussions of gaming mice would fall under that category. Which is why I originally posted in general discussion.
Junk angel;5386785To be honest the best you can do is grope the mouse around a bit to see which one is most comfortable for you.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately the only computer store nearby is BestBuy. I go there all the time just to browse and don't remeber seeing seeing either of those mice in their 'hands on' display area. [QUOTE=Junk angel;5386785]And that mouse is relatively shoddy. Same goes for the ideazon.
The only place that had reviews of the mouse was Newegg, and some people said it was crappy while others were absolutely in love with it. But overall it got a 4/5. I'm not saying your not right, I'm just asking if you have other sources I don't know about. [QUOTE=Junk angel;5386785]As configs go, probably the best mice for customisation are Steelseries one - you can have two specific CPI values defined to a single 1 and swap them on the fly. Plus they're driver less which is a plus.

I looked at the Steelseries and they all look too expensive. I use Linux as my primary OS and Windows for most of my gaming, except Nexuiz which I play primarily on Linux. So, driverless operation would be a deciding factor. As far as I know the SideWinder works without drivers. You just have to edit some config files if you want to customize some of the buttons. I don't really know how the Red1000 stacks up, but I'd assume that since most mice seem to work it'd also work on Linux. If what you said about not needing to go over 800 DPI is true, then the SideWinder's 2000 DPI would be more than enough.

Then again, I've heard many a Linux user rave about how great Logitech devices work with a minimal of tinkering as well.




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#5 8 years ago

To be honest most of the mice work driverlessbut some have either a windows config utility or features that refuse to work or work badly without the respective drivers.

As to the steelseries thing - I guess it's more of a fangirl element :P, since the one I've had from them survived all the abuse I threw at it.




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#6 8 years ago

steelseries are good, but always thought they were too big to my liking,

I go for Razer mice, currently have the imperator, and am quite statisfied of it. only downside on razer could be the the high ampère on your usb-station, wich can cause, (when connected on a station with another much asking hardware) to make the station shut down for a short while, making your mice stop working for a moment




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#7 8 years ago

For a gaming mouse on a budget, I highly recommend the Razer DeathAdder. Originally made in 2007 with 1,800 DPI, they recently re-launched it last year with 3,500 DPI. It's available in both left and right-hand form factors, and has 5 buttons (left+right click, wheel, two thumb buttons), as well as a DPI switch on the bottom. You can set your exact DPI settings in the Razer driver software.

MSRP on the DeathAdder is $60, but you can get it on Amazon new for $47. Best Buy most likely has it on display in their gaming mouse section if you want to see how it feels.

Abandonator, this is literally the first time I've ever heard anyone say anything about any mouse causing a computer to shut down from excessive power draw. Got a link?




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#8 8 years ago

To add on to Zam's comment, I'd also throw the Razer Diamondback your way. Razer generally makes great mice, but if you have small hands like mine (or just like to rest your palm on the mouse pad) the DeathAdder will probably be too much. I know that after trying it at a friend's house I said "yuck" but still wanted something gaming-y.

I went with the Diamondback, also 5 buttons, slightly cheaper and one of those DPi's that won't leave you feeling the difference anyway. The biggest argument for it though, is that it lies relatively flat and small, not tall and bulky. If that argument speaks to you - goody. Just my two cents.

Final Note:

It appears that the Diamondback is no longer in available on the Razer site. They probably replaced it with some other "smaller" model, you just have to find it.




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#9 8 years ago

+1 for the Razer DeathAdder. I have the 3500dpi version and i can honestly say its the best mouse i've ever had. Its very comfortable too for people with larger hands like myself. I got mine brand new still sealed in the original packaging for $35 on eBay.

I have the DPI turned all the way up, then i turn down the mouse sensitivity in games and in Windows. It has very smooth and accurate tracking that way.




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#10 8 years ago
Zamamee;5386827For a gaming mouse on a budget, I highly recommend the Razer DeathAdder. Originally made in 2007 with 1,800 DPI, they recently re-launched it last year with 3,500 DPI...as well as a DPI switch on the bottom.[/QUOTE] The DeathAdder looks like it's a very comfortable mouse and the side buttons look very well thought out. But I don't know if I want a mouse that has the DPI switch on the bottom. My main concern is to be able to switch between a higher DPI for running/gunning and a lower DPI for sniping on the fly. You can't really do that with the switch on the bottom. [QUOTE=Metall_pingwin;5386843]To add on to Zam's comment, I'd also throw the Razer Diamondback your way. Razer generally makes great mice, but if you have small hands like mine (or just like to rest your palm on the mouse pad) the DeathAdder will probably be too much.

I was comparing the DeathAdder with the Diamondback at the store and the Diamondback looked too small. Although, it was kind of hard to tell because they didn't have a model out. So I had to go by what it looked like in the package.




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