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random_soldier1337

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#1 6 years ago

Hey guys. I'm using Windows 7 home basic on my laptop. Recently (just yesterday, probably still the same day for you guys) there were some updates from Microsoft.

Now there are these 3 processes: trustedinstall.exe (Windows trusted installer), and two mscorvw.exe (.NET runtime optimization service) that seem to keep starting up over and over again no matter how many times I end them in the task manager.

While I wouldn't actually care (because seemingly mostly everything runs smooth) there always seems to be some jerking or pause that happens every 1-2 minutes while I am playing a game. I thought it was just me because I happen to be installing a lot of mods that could cause a fair degree of pressure.

So I tried disabling the mods and it still happens. So I just decided to check windows task manager and these 3 processes happen to be there and they were my primary suspects because they rarely appeared earlier and it was only ONE mscorvw.exe that did and it did not put that much pressure. Whereas when these 3 were running I noticed a fair bit of difference in the speed of the CPU fan even while on the desktop from when I closed them.

As of the making of this post I've closed those processes about 3 times I think and another funny observation I made was that when I initially started closing them, task manager indicated 56 processes. Now after closing them for 3 times it indicates 49 processes. It's as if some of them are hidden and just show up when I close the others while some just happen to restart. I have yet to notice them starting up again but my CPU fan does seem to be jumping back and forth between speeds even if only barely noticeable now, it is happening fairly often.




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#2 6 years ago

Trusted Installer is a service that's set to manual by default. If it keeps running just go into the Services tab of TM, highlight it, right click, and click Stop. I didn't even see mscorvw.exe in TM when I looked, but I've read it should only be active during an install, esp a service pack or .NET install.

Are you sure ALL the components selected in that list of installs installed OK? Maybe one or two of them are hanging trying to install and something's blocking them or they would not install due to packet loss or something. Was your ISP connection pretty solid at the time?

I installed every bit of that pack of W7 updates you're referring to and had no problems during or after. BTW, here's a list of safe settings for W7 services in case you're in doubt of how they can be set safely.

Black Viper’s Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Service Configurations | Black Viper | www.blackviper.com




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#3 6 years ago

I know this may seem like a strange question but just answer it; how exactly does the entire update process work on your computer?

I'll know how to respond and possibly address this situation once you've answered.




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#4 6 years ago

As it was with XP, it depends how you set auto updates. I have mine set to just notify without DLing or installing. I click on the little updates taskbar icon when I get a notification and let it download and install, which doesn't take very long on my 7MB connection. On more significant updates that involve a pack of them and a restart, you should also get a momentary hang at the welcome screen indicating it's completing the update process. It's imperative that you do not interrupt that part of the process with a forced restart or shutdown.

W7 however is very annoying in that it refuses to let you manually uninstall drivers then install new ones without it interfering and installing what it deems is the latest, which quite often isn't. I even tried making adjustments to keep W7 from auto installing drivers period, but as was mentioned could be a possibility in the guide I read, it didn't work. I followed up with some Googling and haven't been able to find anyone that could get it to work. That's why major companies like Nvidia and Realtek have found ways to uninstall, then install new drivers for you via their installers.

As I said though, regarding just updating W7, I haven't had any issues with that, knock on wood. I should note however that in that last pack of updates there was one regarding NET Framework that was by default unchecked. I left it that way, installed all the others, then installed it after it showed up again in another driver update popup. Sometimes it's better to layer them in like that.




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#5 6 years ago

Double post from forum hang.




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#6 6 years ago

Well here's the weird part and I'm probably gonna get some flak for this but; For like the past 2 or 3 updates for some reason whenever the update prompt appears in the taskbar and I try to open it up to check what updates are being made, it hasn't let me check. Whenever I've tried to open it up the computer lagged out like hell and I had to close via task manager (during which there was still a lot of lag). So instead the prompt was there to update on shut down. I was fishy at first. Did scans with AV and a few other tools that you recommended for me to install earlier. Nothing came up.

So I just let it update on shut down. The other problem that occurred here though was that first time around I waited for an hour and my computer didn't shut down so I forced shut down. When I start it up again, I don't interrupt anything when it says updating do not turn off and everything seems to be working fine. So everytime the same thing has happened and I've done pretty much the same thing. There didn't seem to be a problem until now. Hell there still doesn't seem to be much of a problem. Everything seems to be fine save for the fact that there is slightly more CPU usage and those few processes. But I suppose since the issues been brought up you might as well tell me what the problems are and the way, if any, to fix them.

Just on a side note, I think the problem with the game was a mod problem.




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#7 6 years ago

It's hard to tell what the problem is from what you've said so far. You didn't even answer how fast and stable your ISP is when I asked. Also, are you on a wireless connection or wired?

It's possible there is some malware affecting the update process or system file corruption if you've ever interrupted a restart while updating.




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#8 6 years ago

Windows 7 is generally surprising resilient to having Windows Updates messed with.




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#9 6 years ago

>Omen<;5611675It's hard to tell what the problem is from what you've said so far. You didn't even answer how fast and stable your ISP is when I asked. Also, are you on a wireless connection or wired?

It's possible there is some malware affecting the update process or system file corruption if you've ever interrupted a restart while updating.

Wired connection, 256 Kbps, although it acts more like 512 Kbps, probably on account of being way out of the city and not being in a concentrated internet user area.

I don't know about system file corruption. All I know is that one day the update icon just wouldn't let me check the updates being made and lag the hell out. I never needed to do any of this before then...




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#10 6 years ago

Start menu - Right click 'Computer' - properties >

Under 'see also' click the updates link.

Click the check for updates button and see whether it lags out again.

It's also worth checking the installed updates list to see whether there's anything that's got a fail or other warning note from around the time the problem first occurred or after it.




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