I currently have a 2.4ghz P4 and a GeForce FX5600. What could you suggest that would be best new components for me to buy? Currently, I plan on getting an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (San Diego core), along with a new motherboard and videocard (both of which I am undecided on). Right now I'm still in the planning stage, I'm not totally sure about what I'm getting, but I know I should have around 550$(I know I can't get the best out there with that, but Its all I have :() to spend. Any help would be appreciated :).
Shizzle my nizzle
28th July 2004
$550 won't be enough for three of the main components that make up a gaming system. You might squeeze on it, but you'd probably have to settle for an AGP board and a slower Athlon64. Are you willing to go for AGP, or do you want PCI-Express, and do you really want an AMD Athlon64 3700+, or would you mind a 3200+?
Live to Frag
29th December 2004
for the video card, get either the radeon X800XL or the Nvidia 6800gt. both are great cards that you can get for around $300 i think. with the leftover money you can get quite a nice motherboard. i dont now much about motherboards...but i hear that asus makes good ones. hope this helps you a bit.
I just thought of, what I think, would be a better idea for me. I could get a fairly cheap motherboard(agp), something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128263, and the 3700. This way I could keep my FX5600 and save my extra money until I have enough to buy a good motherboard and video card. I know I probably should just wait, but I can be impatient(and still undecided, so I might just end up waiting, I just want to make sure I wont be making a mistake).
What've you currently got for a motherboard (make and model), as well as RAM (make, chips if known, speeds and sizes)?
Shizzle my nizzle
28th July 2004
Correct me if I'm wrong. but I think the FX5600 is quite a poor card. I would wait till you had enough for a new motherboard, processor and card. That means you can go for PCI-Express, which will allow you to upgrade your card again in a few years without getting a new motherboard and processor. EDIT: And do you have your Operating System disk? If not, you'll have to consider the cost of that on top of your new kit, because Windows XP doesn't usually work on new motherboards (it tries to get you to buy a new license, but there are ways around it if you're lucky).
Motherboard: FIC VI39L- I hate it. Its a microATX, so there are only 3 PCI slots, and one AGP slot thats only 4X. It leaves a lot of wasted space since my case is an Antec SOHO file server case. Memory: I'm not sure about the manufacturers (I know both are different), but I know one stick is 256mb (PC2100) and the other is 512mb (PC2700). I will be buying new memory as soon as I can too.
Yeah Reven, it is pretty bad, especially with the newer games.
Smitty025Motherboard: FIC VI39L- I hate it. Its a microATX, so there are only 3 PCI slots, and one AGP slot thats only 4X. It leaves a lot of wasted space since my case is an Antec SOHO file server case. Memory: I'm not sure about the manufacturers (I know both are different), but I know one stick is 256mb (PC2100) and the other is 512mb (PC2700). I will be buying new memory as soon as I can too.
Ok, strike that. I was going to suggest that you salvage what you could from your current rig, including your CPU. The 2.4C is one of the greatest overclockers in years (right up there with certain AthlonXPs and the infamous PII's that'd almost double their clock speeds). And at a mild 3.25GHz, they're pretty speedy as well. If you've got memory that can hack it, a 1066+ FSB is quite a nice thing to have But I think I'm getting a little ahead of myself. But supposing that you're open to pushing your CPU a little, might I suggest: ASUS P4P800SE - $93. A solid, i865PE-based motherboard. It's bigger brother (P4P800 Deluxe) goes for $20 more. Gigabyte GV-N66T128D - $158. A 6600GT, and one of the less-expensive ones. I've had one Gigabyte card before (a 9600XT) and can't complain much about it. For around $200, you can get AGP 6600GT VIVO variants, if that's important to you. Total so far: $251, plus shipping This leaves you with about $300 to blow on better memory (probably the most cost-effective solution; get some nice PC3200 value RAM, since you don't seem to be too concerned with having the cream of the crop) or a soundcard or whatever else. I would suggest: OCZ Enhanced Latency OCZ4001024ELDC-K - $128. It's got decent 2-3-2-7 timings, and can probably be overclocked somewhat if you're so inclined. Adding the above brings the total to $379 before shipping. If you're willing to strech your budget a little past $550 (and/or don't want to overclock), Newegg is currently selling retail 3E Prescotts for $181 (not sure if that's the sale or regular price, since the sale is over now). Not including shipping, that puts you at about $560 for a new CPU, mobo, memory and videocard. You can forget about a 3700+ San Diego, mobo and video card for $550; the CPU alone will set you back about $320. You might be able to pull it off if you get a 6600GT and a cheap (<$100 motherboard), but I don't like skimping on the mobo; if you buy smart then you can get one to last you for a very long time, compared to everything else. Either way, you're stuck using onboard audio with that budget, as well as whatever PSU, optical and fixed drives you currently have. Given everything above, if you're stuck hard and fast to a $550 cap, then I'd recycle your P4. This would be about $400 after shipping. OR You might consider a nice nF4 Ultra board (say, an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum for example - $126), a 3000+ Venice ($146), the same memory as above ($128), plus an eVGA 128-P2-N368-TX 6600GT ($164). This option totals to $564 before shipping. It will also probably outperform the first option. Hope that made some sense :)
Lord of the Peach
19th April 2004
Why not add in a Better CPU heat sink such as an XP-90 then up the card to a 6800gt? That ram looks good, though, people are getting the bus a 215mzh...
Pethegreat™Why not add in a Better CPU heat sink such as an XP-90 then up the card to a 6800gt? That ram looks good, though, people are getting the bus a 215mzh...[/QUOTE] Beacause of this line: [QUOTE=Smitty025]but I know I should have around 550$(I know I can't get the best out there with that, but Its all I have ) to spend
An XP-90 would add about $40 (that's for the retail-packaged aluminium unit with fan), and replaceing the 6600GT with an AGP 6800GT will add about $130, so I suppose that's a legitimate option if the P4 is held over. But either choice is a severe budget-buster with a move to AMD here.